Message from @TwinVickers

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2019-03-22 07:57:29 UTC  

What matters is tissue damage.

2019-03-22 07:57:39 UTC  

which is impossible to quantify

2019-03-22 07:57:53 UTC  

tissue damage is just a new word for stopping power

2019-03-22 07:58:12 UTC  

what matters is shot placement

2019-03-22 07:58:41 UTC  

Except they have. There's people who studied gunshot wounds for decades to figure out what it is that causes the quickest incapacitations.

2019-03-22 07:59:02 UTC  

That's literally what the FBI standards are for.

2019-03-22 07:59:22 UTC  

i don't think you understand what the word 'literally' means

2019-03-22 07:59:57 UTC  

"tissue damage" means that a .50 BMG is more efficient over .22 LR

2019-03-22 08:00:00 UTC  

Is being able to have a projectile that reaches what it needs to, while having expansion to cause as much damage as possible on the way.

2019-03-22 08:00:05 UTC  

Yes.

2019-03-22 08:00:07 UTC  

Yes it is.

2019-03-22 08:00:33 UTC  

Being shot with a .50 is going to cause massive amounts of internal damage.

2019-03-22 08:00:33 UTC  

yes, exactly. so let's all just use 30 mm in pistols 'cause tissue damage

2019-03-22 08:01:09 UTC  

I really am not understanding your rhetoric. Obviously something like .50 is going to represent an extreme.

2019-03-22 08:01:41 UTC  

But that doesn't mean that .22lr is something that should be relied on, because it may not actually penetrate deep enough or have any amount of expansion.

2019-03-22 08:02:09 UTC  

i think you understand it perfectly well but just figured you fucked up by saying what you just did

2019-03-22 08:02:37 UTC  

I'm really lost.

2019-03-22 08:03:02 UTC  

#metoo

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/385307110813990913/558561262003421194/Annotation_2019-03-22_100128.jpg

2019-03-22 08:04:11 UTC  

FBI isn't using .50 AE now are they?

2019-03-22 08:05:02 UTC  

I think you might be strawmanning me.

2019-03-22 08:05:28 UTC  

no, just taking you by your word

2019-03-22 08:05:32 UTC  

Because just focusing on KE is going to favor .50 also.

2019-03-22 08:05:39 UTC  

you said tissue damage is the only thing that fbi care about

2019-03-22 08:05:54 UTC  

this is boring me

2019-03-22 08:06:04 UTC  

I said that KE matters less than tissue damage.

2019-03-22 08:06:22 UTC  

no, you said KE is a meme

2019-03-22 08:06:28 UTC  

Yes.

2019-03-22 08:06:43 UTC  

now being a boomer i don't know that meme

2019-03-22 08:06:59 UTC  

KE is something that boomers unironically obsess about.

2019-03-22 08:07:13 UTC  

i do know the stopping power meme, which is apparently now the tissue damage meme

2019-03-22 08:07:24 UTC  

KE is the stopping power meme.

2019-03-22 08:07:32 UTC  

KE = Kinetic Energy.

2019-03-22 08:07:55 UTC  

It's the idea that .45 is somehow a nuclear bomb compared to 9mm.

2019-03-22 08:07:56 UTC  

KE is a value derived from a formula, stopping power is something that's not quantifiable

2019-03-22 08:08:10 UTC  

no, 9 mm and .45 have practically the similar KE

2019-03-22 08:08:14 UTC  

It's "muh ft-lbs"

2019-03-22 08:08:26 UTC  

They're all related.

2019-03-22 08:08:28 UTC  

again, KE and ft-lbs are different

2019-03-22 08:08:51 UTC  

of course everything is related

2019-03-22 08:09:03 UTC  

You know what? This is going nowhere, you and I are discussing different things.

2019-03-22 08:09:24 UTC  

We can't even agree on terms, there is no point.