Message from @TwinVickers
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What matters is tissue damage.
which is impossible to quantify
tissue damage is just a new word for stopping power
what matters is shot placement
Except they have. There's people who studied gunshot wounds for decades to figure out what it is that causes the quickest incapacitations.
That's literally what the FBI standards are for.
i don't think you understand what the word 'literally' means
"tissue damage" means that a .50 BMG is more efficient over .22 LR
Is being able to have a projectile that reaches what it needs to, while having expansion to cause as much damage as possible on the way.
Yes.
Yes it is.
Being shot with a .50 is going to cause massive amounts of internal damage.
yes, exactly. so let's all just use 30 mm in pistols 'cause tissue damage
I really am not understanding your rhetoric. Obviously something like .50 is going to represent an extreme.
But that doesn't mean that .22lr is something that should be relied on, because it may not actually penetrate deep enough or have any amount of expansion.
i think you understand it perfectly well but just figured you fucked up by saying what you just did
I'm really lost.
FBI isn't using .50 AE now are they?
I think you might be strawmanning me.
Because just focusing on KE is going to favor .50 also.
you said tissue damage is the only thing that fbi care about
this is boring me
I said that KE matters less than tissue damage.
no, you said KE is a meme
Yes.
now being a boomer i don't know that meme
KE is something that boomers unironically obsess about.
i do know the stopping power meme, which is apparently now the tissue damage meme
KE is the stopping power meme.
KE = Kinetic Energy.
It's the idea that .45 is somehow a nuclear bomb compared to 9mm.
KE is a value derived from a formula, stopping power is something that's not quantifiable
no, 9 mm and .45 have practically the similar KE
It's "muh ft-lbs"
They're all related.
again, KE and ft-lbs are different
of course everything is related
You know what? This is going nowhere, you and I are discussing different things.
We can't even agree on terms, there is no point.