Message from @Veritas Prognostician
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i think you understand it perfectly well but just figured you fucked up by saying what you just did
I'm really lost.
FBI isn't using .50 AE now are they?
I think you might be strawmanning me.
no, just taking you by your word
Because just focusing on KE is going to favor .50 also.
you said tissue damage is the only thing that fbi care about
this is boring me
I said that KE matters less than tissue damage.
no, you said KE is a meme
Yes.
now being a boomer i don't know that meme
KE is something that boomers unironically obsess about.
i do know the stopping power meme, which is apparently now the tissue damage meme
KE is the stopping power meme.
KE = Kinetic Energy.
It's the idea that .45 is somehow a nuclear bomb compared to 9mm.
KE is a value derived from a formula, stopping power is something that's not quantifiable
no, 9 mm and .45 have practically the similar KE
They're all related.
again, KE and ft-lbs are different
of course everything is related
You know what? This is going nowhere, you and I are discussing different things.
We can't even agree on terms, there is no point.
i think you're just cornered and want out
I really don't, but if you want to "win" then go ahead.
KE is mass times the square of speed
meaning 9 mm with more speed hits equally hard as the heavier .45 (relatively), ft-lbs is the muzzle energy.
I know that. Why are we discussing this?
and penetration details matter just as much to fbi as the terminal ballistics (ie. tissue damage). .50 AE isn't used by the FBI because while it has the tissue damage, it's a shitty cartridge.
I know that, but why are you resorting to a straw man?
just 2 seconds ago you said stopping power, KE and muzzle energy are the same thing
before that you said tissue damage is literally the only thing FBI cares about
No I fucking didn't.
i'm just rubbing it in honey, you call it a straw man because you're a fucking idiot
Why because you're taking what I said out of context for an internet gotcha?
Man, you're a fucking intellectual.
out of context?
yeah, that's what I'm doing.