So ya...the .50 rifles have very limited use in military applications

I'm talking like SHTF situation where some gang gets hold of an abandoned Garda armored truck and uses it as an armored assault vehicle or something along those lines

Well I mean...sure

even then I dont think the 50 would do it

I think those are designed to take .50 ?

The armored bank trucks? Na

yea, armored bank trucks

I think there designed for 30-06 AP at point blank at most

There windshield and windows certainly isnt thick enough to stop a .50

I would think

right

I dont remember the armor level ratings...But typically the highest unless your the fucking president only guarantees protection from .308/ 7.62 NATO, or 30-06 AP...though most civilian armored cars are only built to handle 5.56/7.62×39

The armored bank cars most definitely can handle a .308/7.62 NATO tho

are the mka-1919 type shotguns any good? the turkish ones

@Duke of Mecklenburg I shut down the conversation because the 416 will reach something like 2700 yards? He is worried more about heavy machine guns then he is long range sniper rounds

That's not what were talking about

At all

Were talking about Long range shooting specifically

@nutsnax everyone has their own preference.

I scrolled up to earlier in the conversation

Should have clarified

Further than 2,700

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518798189982384169/563886116235640862/9mm.gif

20mm anti material rifle ftw

@Duke of Mecklenburg they might suck for long range shooting, but that doesn't make those wildcats a superior all around cartridges. Namely because there aren't similar loads like the Mk. 211 Raufoss or the SLAP. You could compare Lapua .338 against those as they are all meant for exactly the same purpose, unlike a multipurpose cartridge like the BMG.
What gave you the idea militaries choose the best option? It's always the cheapest option, very few militaries are in the spot where they have unlimited budget.

.416 isnt a wildcat

I guess I'm a retard for seeing that you can't compare an all around cartridge against a sniper cartridge. Comparing .50 BMG and .338 Lapua is equally retarded as comparing 9x19 to 9x39.

.416 can do anything a 50 could

Nearly

sure it can

Including better penetration

but it's not superiour

But it is

As a long range cartridge

Which was the whole point

they are not comparable, it's not usable in a machine gun

That was never an argument

At all

no, the whole point for the original argument was that a katana was better than toilet paper

well that's what started this, a clear comparison with two unrelated things

That had nothing to do with anything I ever talked about