That's why the military barely has any, in all reality

I try to think of what the best types of rifles to own would be, for theoretical situations - it's kind of a fun exercise. i.e. financial collapse, invasion etc

or what the various use-cases would be

Well...a .50 typically weighs 30 pounds...My 338-378(shoots about 150ft/s faster than lapua) weighs as much as a typical hunting rifle...Both could be used way past 2000 yards

So from a military/defense standpoint those big guns are only relevant for lightly armored vehicles

right, that would make a much better combination anti-material/sniper rifle but I doubt ammo is all that available

so if someone stole an armored car and put machine guns on it, you could theoretically use it to punch through it (maybe)

338-378 ammo is $80 for a box of 20 from weatherby, and it's a niche long range round

Even then the .50 wouldnt do shit to an APC, or IFV

fuck that's expensive

Only literally cars...That are armored

Would be in trouble

Like literally all APCs are built to atleast survive 14.5mm AP rounds at 100 yards

Which is more powerful than a .50

So ya...the .50 rifles have very limited use in military applications

I'm talking like SHTF situation where some gang gets hold of an abandoned Garda armored truck and uses it as an armored assault vehicle or something along those lines

Well I mean...sure

even then I dont think the 50 would do it

I think those are designed to take .50 ?

The armored bank trucks? Na

yea, armored bank trucks

I think there designed for 30-06 AP at point blank at most

There windshield and windows certainly isnt thick enough to stop a .50

I would think

right

I dont remember the armor level ratings...But typically the highest unless your the fucking president only guarantees protection from .308/ 7.62 NATO, or 30-06 AP...though most civilian armored cars are only built to handle 5.56/7.62×39

The armored bank cars most definitely can handle a .308/7.62 NATO tho

are the mka-1919 type shotguns any good? the turkish ones

@Duke of Mecklenburg I shut down the conversation because the 416 will reach something like 2700 yards? He is worried more about heavy machine guns then he is long range sniper rounds

That's not what were talking about

At all

Were talking about Long range shooting specifically

@nutsnax everyone has their own preference.

I scrolled up to earlier in the conversation

Should have clarified

Further than 2,700

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518798189982384169/563886116235640862/9mm.gif

20mm anti material rifle ftw

@Duke of Mecklenburg they might suck for long range shooting, but that doesn't make those wildcats a superior all around cartridges. Namely because there aren't similar loads like the Mk. 211 Raufoss or the SLAP. You could compare Lapua .338 against those as they are all meant for exactly the same purpose, unlike a multipurpose cartridge like the BMG.
What gave you the idea militaries choose the best option? It's always the cheapest option, very few militaries are in the spot where they have unlimited budget.

.416 isnt a wildcat

I guess I'm a retard for seeing that you can't compare an all around cartridge against a sniper cartridge. Comparing .50 BMG and .338 Lapua is equally retarded as comparing 9x19 to 9x39.