right, I don't think you need a 600+ grain projectile to take out a transformer

or some kind of infrastructure like that

The semi-auto Barrett sucks...idk why but they group like horseshit

Atleast the McMillan 50 and M99 bolt action 50 seem far more accurate...But that can be due to individual rifles...I just have yet to see an M82 that doesnt have the grouping of a child with cerebral palsy at 1600 yards

I saw something about hte .50 barrett sucking because the barrel has to flop around in the recoil absorption process when firing (I think?)

That's my guess

I can tell you a McMillan, an M99 or a custom is tremendously more accurate than the M82 tho, from all the empirical evidence I've seen

guess you could get lighter projectiles/lighter loads that wouldn't be so bad in a bolt action of some sort

hm, i can't even find 416 barrett ammo

Idk why the military doesnt adopt a barret .416, but with a magazine

They're single shot, no capacity

Which is an issue, for military purposes

maybe it's because they have .50 bmg machine guns on all kinds of things so if they can get 80-90% of the performance without rolling a new cartridge and having to fuck with the manufacturer

though I dunno if the .50 is 80-90% of the performance

The .50 Barretts and McMillans have a very niche military role anyway...Pretty much just Anti-material...

The .338 Lapua pretty much gets you were you need to go, in terms of sniping

That's why the military barely has any, in all reality

I try to think of what the best types of rifles to own would be, for theoretical situations - it's kind of a fun exercise. i.e. financial collapse, invasion etc

or what the various use-cases would be

Well...a .50 typically weighs 30 pounds...My 338-378(shoots about 150ft/s faster than lapua) weighs as much as a typical hunting rifle...Both could be used way past 2000 yards

So from a military/defense standpoint those big guns are only relevant for lightly armored vehicles

right, that would make a much better combination anti-material/sniper rifle but I doubt ammo is all that available

so if someone stole an armored car and put machine guns on it, you could theoretically use it to punch through it (maybe)

338-378 ammo is $80 for a box of 20 from weatherby, and it's a niche long range round

Even then the .50 wouldnt do shit to an APC, or IFV

fuck that's expensive

Only literally cars...That are armored

Would be in trouble

Like literally all APCs are built to atleast survive 14.5mm AP rounds at 100 yards

Which is more powerful than a .50

So ya...the .50 rifles have very limited use in military applications

I'm talking like SHTF situation where some gang gets hold of an abandoned Garda armored truck and uses it as an armored assault vehicle or something along those lines

Well I mean...sure

even then I dont think the 50 would do it

I think those are designed to take .50 ?

The armored bank trucks? Na

yea, armored bank trucks

I think there designed for 30-06 AP at point blank at most

There windshield and windows certainly isnt thick enough to stop a .50

I would think

right