Message from Virgil in Nice Respectable People Group #general


2018-10-03 16:30:14 UTC  

@Virgil Nah. They're all cucked.

2018-10-03 16:30:32 UTC  

we'll only have sympathetic media attention when these outlets literally have no choice.

2018-10-03 16:30:49 UTC  

but to accept us and our ways

2018-10-03 16:30:52 UTC  

i guess if we can get a ton of civnat tier whites in to give us more capital to work with to spread our message, and leadership stays the course, its whatever...

2018-10-03 16:30:54 UTC  

parts of the organization's imagery could slowly be swapped out

2018-10-03 16:31:09 UTC  

Even if you compare our optics to those of GI, the latter uses an ancient, but bold color scheme with regal origins (black and gold), whereas notwithstanding my own fondness for our color scheme, it's kind of fashwave-esque, and therefore specific to a particular time and subculture.

2018-10-03 16:31:10 UTC  

@Goose that's what I'm worried about

2018-10-03 16:31:16 UTC  

@Asatru Artist - MD Why not have them just donate to us? <:teehee:381917632359563264>

2018-10-03 16:31:53 UTC  

but a rebrand shouldn't concern any members because the foundation and structure of the IE network will remain intact.
does putting on a new hat change who's wearing it?

2018-10-03 16:32:00 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD Our logo is also ancient, Germanic, and uses a nice, modern aesthetic tho

2018-10-03 16:32:28 UTC  

@Rabbidsith Tucker isn't cucked and Breitbart has a large following that could potentially support us

2018-10-03 16:32:56 UTC  

We need to maintain our own brand. That in itself has meaning and recognition

2018-10-03 16:33:08 UTC  

@Goose yes, the minute you put on a MAGA hat, you go full fasc, put on an antifa hat, you go full soy <:teehee:381917632359563264>

2018-10-03 16:33:25 UTC  

@Virgil Yeah but the rest of Fox is cucked and Breitbart isn't going to support us until we have a lot more power.

2018-10-03 16:33:28 UTC  

Agreed, but the lambda is far more well-known and recognizable, and right or wrong (wrong), Greco-Roman semiotics occupies a position of greater notability and prestige than Germanic, even in Germanic Europe, and Germany itself.

2018-10-03 16:33:36 UTC  

I'm afraid people will associate an "Explicitly American group wanting to defend it's borders and maintain a White majority" with another group. It's to easy to make the comparison if we were explicitly American

2018-10-03 16:34:44 UTC  

Rebranding would lose what name recognition we have, make our already printed stickers and flyers unusable, and seem like we gave up who we are to court civnats.
The only reason to rebrand is if we somehow lose the C-ville lawsuit, imo

2018-10-03 16:34:47 UTC  

@The Eternal Anglo Only if we develop our own unique lexicon, and insist that every word therein begin with the same consonant, lol.

2018-10-03 16:34:53 UTC  

I doubt that these people are going to give a shit until we have 10,000 members.

2018-10-03 16:35:35 UTC  

*the mainstream media

2018-10-03 16:35:37 UTC  

@Rabbidsith Right but the question is how do we get more power, by getting investors and capital. Which would be much easier if we had a name that was more marketable to the average American and potential investors.

2018-10-03 16:35:40 UTC  

they already give a sh*t and we have around 1000....

2018-10-03 16:36:11 UTC  

The face of us being a fraternity for European Americans, not only is that a great description of us, but it also negates any comparison people may want to make of us to nasty 1.0 organisations. It's very cunning and sly

2018-10-03 16:36:26 UTC  

@Virgil I agree that we need investors and capital. However, losing what little brand recognition we have isn't conducive to that end.

2018-10-03 16:36:40 UTC  

@Virgil Well most of our money is going to the Cvill lawsuit, but once that's done and over with, it's easy flying

2018-10-03 16:36:51 UTC  

Evropa is also American because LARPing as Romans is an American tradition dating back to the founding fathers

2018-10-03 16:37:25 UTC  

toga toga toga!

2018-10-03 16:37:27 UTC  

Like I said, I'm not married to any particular means. If you think about things from another perspective, Generation Identity was a pretty unprecedented brand, and required a healthy amount explanation itself. Even if we were to retain the same title, though, at bare minimum, the color scheme would probably have to evolve over time.

2018-10-03 16:37:47 UTC  

We're paying off a lawsuit **and** still doing huge events all around the Country, I'd say we're doing *just* fine on capital.

Monetary capital is not the only thing we need, social capital as well. Rebranding would make us lose one of the two essential buildings blocks we need to succeed to power.

2018-10-03 16:38:38 UTC  

...and the Dragon's Eye is probably too esoteric. There are plenty of recognizably American symbols that are pretty edgy.

2018-10-03 16:38:57 UTC  

@Rabbidsith By keeping the logo and the Identity part of our name, we wouldn't lose much in the way of brand recognition. Identity Columbia has a certain European and American ring to it that people can get behind.

2018-10-03 16:39:28 UTC  

why not keep IE AND plant some seeds for a "new" org?
i know it would require much more work, but we could alwyas jump ship if need be

2018-10-03 16:39:28 UTC  

When I hear "Colombia" I think of the third world hellhole of Colombia, no offense

2018-10-03 16:39:40 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD im on board with the american symbol change

2018-10-03 16:40:09 UTC  

But keeping the name

2018-10-03 16:40:21 UTC  

@The Eternal Anglo /Identity Colombia/

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/497085513325608960/1280px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png

2018-10-03 16:41:39 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD The capital of the USA is the District of Columbia

2018-10-03 16:41:51 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD The fact that nobody has heard of identitarianism is both a blessing and a curse. On one hand, it makes it hard to do the elevator pitch.
On the other, it allows us to explain what we stand for on our terms. Abandoning it for Americanism where we have to clarify that Americanism risks looking either civnat or WN 1.0 Overall, one of our greatest assets is that we define ourselves, not anyone who came before us.

2018-10-03 16:42:00 UTC  

@Nemets Agreed. I'm just saying that the homophone factor could get dodgy.

2018-10-03 16:42:21 UTC  

fortune 500 companies spend millions if not billions on rebranding.
it's usually done incrimentally or drastically, depending on the severity of need due to market or PR problems.
right now we are in a good spot (for now), but small adjustments down the line couldn't hurt

2018-10-03 16:42:29 UTC