Message from Virgil in Nice Respectable People Group #general
we'll only have sympathetic media attention when these outlets literally have no choice.
but to accept us and our ways
i guess if we can get a ton of civnat tier whites in to give us more capital to work with to spread our message, and leadership stays the course, its whatever...
parts of the organization's imagery could slowly be swapped out
Even if you compare our optics to those of GI, the latter uses an ancient, but bold color scheme with regal origins (black and gold), whereas notwithstanding my own fondness for our color scheme, it's kind of fashwave-esque, and therefore specific to a particular time and subculture.
@Asatru Artist - MD Why not have them just donate to us? <:teehee:381917632359563264>
but a rebrand shouldn't concern any members because the foundation and structure of the IE network will remain intact.
does putting on a new hat change who's wearing it?
@Bjorn - MD Our logo is also ancient, Germanic, and uses a nice, modern aesthetic tho
@Rabbidsith Tucker isn't cucked and Breitbart has a large following that could potentially support us
We need to maintain our own brand. That in itself has meaning and recognition
@Goose yes, the minute you put on a MAGA hat, you go full fasc, put on an antifa hat, you go full soy <:teehee:381917632359563264>
@Virgil Yeah but the rest of Fox is cucked and Breitbart isn't going to support us until we have a lot more power.
Agreed, but the lambda is far more well-known and recognizable, and right or wrong (wrong), Greco-Roman semiotics occupies a position of greater notability and prestige than Germanic, even in Germanic Europe, and Germany itself.
I'm afraid people will associate an "Explicitly American group wanting to defend it's borders and maintain a White majority" with another group. It's to easy to make the comparison if we were explicitly American
Rebranding would lose what name recognition we have, make our already printed stickers and flyers unusable, and seem like we gave up who we are to court civnats.
The only reason to rebrand is if we somehow lose the C-ville lawsuit, imo
@The Eternal Anglo Only if we develop our own unique lexicon, and insist that every word therein begin with the same consonant, lol.
I doubt that these people are going to give a shit until we have 10,000 members.
*the mainstream media
@Rabbidsith Right but the question is how do we get more power, by getting investors and capital. Which would be much easier if we had a name that was more marketable to the average American and potential investors.
they already give a sh*t and we have around 1000....
The face of us being a fraternity for European Americans, not only is that a great description of us, but it also negates any comparison people may want to make of us to nasty 1.0 organisations. It's very cunning and sly
@Virgil I agree that we need investors and capital. However, losing what little brand recognition we have isn't conducive to that end.
@Virgil Well most of our money is going to the Cvill lawsuit, but once that's done and over with, it's easy flying
Evropa is also American because LARPing as Romans is an American tradition dating back to the founding fathers
toga toga toga!
Like I said, I'm not married to any particular means. If you think about things from another perspective, Generation Identity was a pretty unprecedented brand, and required a healthy amount explanation itself. Even if we were to retain the same title, though, at bare minimum, the color scheme would probably have to evolve over time.
We're paying off a lawsuit **and** still doing huge events all around the Country, I'd say we're doing *just* fine on capital.
Monetary capital is not the only thing we need, social capital as well. Rebranding would make us lose one of the two essential buildings blocks we need to succeed to power.
...and the Dragon's Eye is probably too esoteric. There are plenty of recognizably American symbols that are pretty edgy.
@Rabbidsith By keeping the logo and the Identity part of our name, we wouldn't lose much in the way of brand recognition. Identity Columbia has a certain European and American ring to it that people can get behind.
why not keep IE AND plant some seeds for a "new" org?
i know it would require much more work, but we could alwyas jump ship if need be
When I hear "Colombia" I think of the third world hellhole of Colombia, no offense
But keeping the name
@Bjorn - MD The fact that nobody has heard of identitarianism is both a blessing and a curse. On one hand, it makes it hard to do the elevator pitch.
On the other, it allows us to explain what we stand for on our terms. Abandoning it for Americanism where we have to clarify that Americanism risks looking either civnat or WN 1.0 Overall, one of our greatest assets is that we define ourselves, not anyone who came before us.
@Nemets Agreed. I'm just saying that the homophone factor could get dodgy.
fortune 500 companies spend millions if not billions on rebranding.
it's usually done incrimentally or drastically, depending on the severity of need due to market or PR problems.
right now we are in a good spot (for now), but small adjustments down the line couldn't hurt