Message from @woll3
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@Goblin_Slayer_Floki Yes, but he's surrounded by people who are pro-UBI
Depends on what it is.
Tulsi is so mired in intersectionality now
Watch his interview on Shapiro
@Fitzydog Nd that's fine. He has been spouting it's based on economists of the past, but they weren't about ubi, they were about negative income tax, which we essentially already have
I have
Oh okay
I'm of the opinion that UBI is one of the few options we have to slowly ween a large percentage of our population off of the welfare system
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It places the responsibility of budgeting onto the individual
It's just welfare by another name
Which is a huge first step that shouldn't be overlooked
Yeah no shit
And no matter how he says it wont, it will grow
https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1130530010010411008 @Jabba's Soapbox I dunno if my stomach can take it
@Goblin_Slayer_Floki well your only other choice is to hope for total societal collapse.
So choose wisely
Only ubi is worse than current welfare. Least current SHOULD be limited to those who need it
Sorry I dont see giving everyone 1k bucks as society saving. I see it as an inflationary tool
Because within a year or 2 it will be like that 1k doesnt exist as inflation quickly moves to match
But Yang also shows signs hes against a free market.
Fact:
The welfare state WILL COLLAPSE.
It will not last forever, nor for very much longer.
This is a fact.
Do you want it to collapse while a whole bunch of people are dependent upon various programs? Or do you want it to collapse where it's just an extra income check?
@woll3 only with a completely controlled market and extreme taxing on businesses
Which will be a reality once the time comes, but as said, at this point in time its a thought experiment, not reality
People will be dependant on either. And tbh those dependant wholly on welfare wont survive with only yangbucks
So it doesnt fix anything
And even then, there is absolutely no guarantee that with yang bucks the welfare system will vanish
UBI is a soft landing for welfare collapse.
Thats my argument.
Yang can say it will. But Congress would make that call, and the DNC wouldn't ever agree to defunding their largest voting block
Also true
So basically it would just accelerate that collapse you mention
No, it will soften it into a controlled demolition
The reality is that there is nothing wrong with targeted welfare, and nothing more needed
that the system can be refined is a reality though
We're already on track for a point of no return with national, debt
How so?
Eh it just needs to be more targeted. It needs refined and fraudsters kicked off.
Why should everyone receive 1000$ at all time
The reality is that welfare is the worst thing govt has ever invented