Message from @Wood-Ape - OK/MN
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@Jacob Civic Nationalism is a much better social regime than what we are currently exposed to.
Well that's not true. I have opinions. I guess what I mean is I'm not interested in ideological purity. Which means, yes, I can work with MAGA
Is it? It just delays us becoming a minority by like 5 years. The end result is the same.
I rejected basic tenets of leftist ideology in part because of Ben Shapiro. I rejected the systematic white supremacy stuff and gender queer bs
Civic nationalism is not a viable solution, but there are civnats that literally want to deport 30 million people. Strategically finding common ground with them is good politics
Well, it's also worth pointing out that civnats are on a spectrum
You can plug a hole with cement or chewing gum. Just get the hole plugged.
If you don't have cement, get to chewing.
"End immigration" civic nationalism is useful, "I love legal immigration" civic nationalism is literally the same end result as liberalism
us = cement, civnats = chewing gum, GOP = fishnet
A lot of civnats know deep down that we are right. We just have to break the stranglehold that the moral paradigm of "racism" holds over them
Mass importation of Asians actually makes the average white an underclass quicker than mass mestizo. Of course the problem is now we have both happening.
@Jacob, Civnats literally want to physically round up 11 million human beings and build a several thousand mile long wall at our Mexican border. - If you don't see a CivNat regime as a massive improvement to our current political order you are blind
IQ nationalism isn't real nationalism
@Asatru Artist - MD Problem is, a lot of the time civnats don't want to fix the hole
again. it's not the ideal - its a step in the right direction.
"Big Brain nibbas only" -Civnats
I won't counter signal MAGA. Murdoch is right, MAGA is the sleeping giant.
Dumb but powerful.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN sure. it's up to us to awaken and harness it!
Which is better O P T I C S ?
We didn't get in this mess overnight and we won't get out of it overnight. Just as the left didn't go straight from JFK to what it is today, we are going to have to make incremental progress. Getting civnats like Trump in power is a step in the right direction for the first time in many years
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN do they still have vaporwave pink?
red will trigger more people...
@TMatthews Yeah I see eye to eye with you there.
Of course I am from one of two fully red states. And the only hat-shaped one.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN My state flipped the entire election, chud.
The truth is that we do want to MAGA. We just realize exactly what that means
Where you at?
@Deleted User Thank you for your service. Hold the line.
o7
To be honest, no, I don't see it as a massive improvement, because illegals are a very small factor in the equation for when we become a minority. Do I see it as a small improvement? In some cases.
I'd go as far to say that civic nationalism can be a destructive force at times, because it creates a false sense of security. "lol we stopped illegal immigration we can get complacent now while legal immigrants replace us"
I'm not arguing that we should be edgelords and alienate civnats, I'm arguing that we should try to move them to our side rather than just become them.
Amish gang rise up
I love the Amish
I'm a bit biased on this since I've had a lot of bad experiences with civnats, including Proud Boys literally collaborating with Antifa to dox me
@Jacob whoa, that's bonkers!
Ya, I'm not making that up, and I'm willing to elaborate if needed
I believe you.
@Jacob Nobody here is arguing that we should become civnats. If, however, gaining real power and influence within institutions like the GOP requires it, we should pretend to be on an individual level though perhaps
White Taqiyya