Message from @Fulcrum010

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2018-03-27 23:40:55 UTC  

I'm talking about mass shootings

2018-03-27 23:40:56 UTC  

and I hate to point this out, but if you look at the white population of the US they are in line with everyone else

2018-03-27 23:41:02 UTC  

not gun violence

2018-03-27 23:42:03 UTC  

I think the whole thing is just underhandedly racist in that it fails to address the issue

2018-03-27 23:42:14 UTC  

wtf are you talking about?

2018-03-27 23:42:48 UTC  

there's more deaths from black on black violence from guns than school shootings, but we fixate on school shootings because it's mostly white people doing them

2018-03-27 23:42:52 UTC  

dude

2018-03-27 23:42:56 UTC  

i'm talking about mass shootings

2018-03-27 23:43:09 UTC  

I know, but Hogg is talking about all of gun violence

2018-03-27 23:43:13 UTC  

i don't care about this race stuff

2018-03-27 23:43:20 UTC  

that whole event was about gun violence generally in the US

2018-03-27 23:43:22 UTC  

not just school shootings

2018-03-27 23:43:24 UTC  

this is useless for the point i was trying to make

2018-03-27 23:45:42 UTC  

i think the problem is alienation and things along along those lines, then someone did a shooting and the media highlighted them for weeks, and kept doing it over and over. Now the same kinds of people are thinking "hey that looks like a good way to make a statement and get back at everyone who i hate". the media romanticized it, and it became common. And now it's considered a "gun problem"

2018-03-27 23:46:31 UTC  

I'm not 100% but I believe nearly all youth mass shooters in the last couple decades have either been on psyciatric medication or prescribed them

2018-03-27 23:46:59 UTC  

i wouldn't be surprised

2018-03-27 23:47:07 UTC  

i'm sure that has something to do with it

2018-03-27 23:47:19 UTC  

I told my best friend that I don't believe he should have the right to own his guns because he is on pills

2018-03-27 23:47:27 UTC  

he shouldn't tbh

2018-03-27 23:47:36 UTC  

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it probably does

2018-03-27 23:48:17 UTC  

and that's what i was saying before.

When they start to blame guns for it, they lose the opportunity to find out or at least even talk about what might be causing it

2018-03-27 23:48:55 UTC  

It’s because they, as in the politicians who support these kids, don’t actually care

2018-03-27 23:49:03 UTC  

They just see them as more votes.

2018-03-27 23:49:20 UTC  

I believe there are two separate issues facing youth populations that may in the end be related, but they are unique to class and race. I think it overwhelmingly has to do with a lack of father figure and/or sense of belonging

2018-03-27 23:49:36 UTC  

agreed

2018-03-27 23:49:57 UTC  

i guess it's more complicated than that

2018-03-27 23:50:08 UTC  

lack of family structure and community

2018-03-27 23:50:13 UTC  

in the most general sense I believe it is a masculinity issue

2018-03-27 23:50:34 UTC  

then we can look at mass shooters vs "street violence"

2018-03-27 23:50:37 UTC  

kids arent mature enough to navigate life on there own

2018-03-27 23:50:41 UTC  

and lack of good inner city education also plays a part.

2018-03-27 23:51:02 UTC  

and they end up in bad places mentally

2018-03-27 23:51:16 UTC  

without guidance

2018-03-27 23:51:28 UTC  

I unironically believe that rap music is a problem

2018-03-27 23:51:34 UTC  

as much as I enjoy it

2018-03-27 23:51:48 UTC  

when your value system is how intimidating you are and how much pussy that gets you

2018-03-27 23:51:58 UTC  

you're going to be motivated to be a shithead, I've seen it myself

2018-03-27 23:52:04 UTC  

the thug culture is a problem for sure, and the "lets get faded" thing too

2018-03-27 23:53:02 UTC  

that sort of media makes it seem okay to fuck your life up

2018-03-27 23:53:13 UTC  

even desirable to make you seem cool

2018-03-27 23:53:26 UTC  

for people who don't have a very active pre frontal cortex then ya it fucks your shit up