Message from @franti

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2018-04-02 16:47:11 UTC  

no

2018-04-02 16:47:46 UTC  

They favour government ownership of the MoP.

2018-04-02 16:48:45 UTC  

Social democrats are ideologically socialists of sort.

2018-04-02 16:48:56 UTC  

Social democracy is just a means

2018-04-02 16:49:20 UTC  

a social democrat is something that supports those means

2018-04-02 16:49:30 UTC  

most socialists are social democrats

2018-04-02 16:49:35 UTC  

Jeremy Corbyn is a social democrat

2018-04-02 16:50:35 UTC  

Corbyn seems like a full blown commie

2018-04-02 16:50:45 UTC  

>_<

2018-04-02 16:50:52 UTC  

😂

2018-04-02 16:51:06 UTC  

Specially wheh he advocates for the take over of private property

2018-04-02 16:51:31 UTC  

^

2018-04-02 16:52:01 UTC  

That's the main difference between the left and the right in most countries

2018-04-02 16:52:07 UTC  

liberal democracy vs social democracy

2018-04-02 16:52:46 UTC  

liberal democracy is a different term

2018-04-02 16:52:50 UTC  

yes

2018-04-02 16:52:57 UTC  

It means you have many political parties

2018-04-02 16:53:01 UTC  

Confiscate corbyns toothbrush he prolly dont use since he is british and see if he belive in privat property

2018-04-02 16:53:23 UTC  

democracy means that

2018-04-02 16:53:44 UTC  

confiscate corbyn's cuppa

2018-04-02 16:54:03 UTC  

@NightOwl You can have an illiberal democracy

2018-04-02 16:54:14 UTC  

Democracy means just electing

2018-04-02 16:55:13 UTC  

yes that you can elect people to represent you

2018-04-02 16:55:34 UTC  

@NightOwl And you can elect the commie you want to represent you

2018-04-02 16:55:38 UTC  

that's democracy, or how we practice it in the west

2018-04-02 16:55:40 UTC  

yes you can

2018-04-02 16:55:51 UTC  

under a democracy you can elect anything

2018-04-02 16:55:55 UTC  

you can elect fascists

2018-04-02 16:56:13 UTC  

@Deleted User n illiberal democracy, also called a partial democracy, low intensity democracy, empty democracy, or hybrid regime, is a governing system in which, although elections take place, citizens are cut off from knowledge about the activities of those who exercise real power because of the lack of civil liberties. It is not an "open society". There are many countries "that are categorized as neither 'free' nor 'not free', but as 'probably free', falling somewhere between democratic and nondemocratic regimes". This may be because a constitution limiting government powers exists, but those in power ignore its liberties, or because an adequate legal constitutional framework of liberties does not exist.

2018-04-02 16:57:22 UTC  

@Deleted User Liberal democracy is a liberal political ideology and a form of government in which representative democracy operates under the principles of classical liberalism. Also called western democracy, it is characterised by fair, free and competitive elections between multiple distinct political parties, a separation of powers into different branches of government, the rule of law in everyday life as part of an open society and the equal protection of human rights, civil rights, civil liberties and political freedoms for all people. To define the system in practice, liberal democracies often draw upon a constitution, either formally written or uncodified, to delineate the powers of government and enshrine the social contract. After a period of sustained expansion throughout the 20th century, liberal democracy became the predominant political system in the world.

2018-04-02 16:58:33 UTC  

The liberal democratic constitution defines the democratic character of the state. The purpose of a constitution is often seen as a limit on the authority of the government. Liberal democracy emphasises the separation of powers, an independent judiciary and a system of checks and balances between branches of government. Liberal democracies are likely to emphasise the importance of the state being a Rechtsstaat, i.e. a state that follows the principle of rule of law. Governmental authority is legitimately exercised only in accordance with written, publicly disclosed laws adopted and enforced in accordance with established procedure. Many democracies use federalism—also known as vertical separation of powers—in order to prevent abuse and increase public input by dividing governing powers between municipal, provincial and national governments

2018-04-02 16:59:02 UTC  

Franti, shilling for wikipedia.

2018-04-02 17:01:58 UTC  

^

2018-04-02 17:14:52 UTC  

there's also social liberals which shouldnt be confused with social democrats

2018-04-02 17:15:33 UTC  

social liberals are ok with government providing extrended services such as health care

2018-04-02 17:16:02 UTC  

but they believe in a market economy

2018-04-02 17:16:16 UTC  

Welp, was going to go to bed, but..

2018-04-02 17:16:21 UTC  

any libs that aren't classic libs are cucks