Message from @Fulcrum010

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2018-04-02 16:44:20 UTC  

Sort of like how anarchists and communists can agree that we don’t government but they don’t agree on how to approach it

2018-04-02 16:44:23 UTC  

socialism is a different system

2018-04-02 16:44:50 UTC  

it's so easy to get into semantics haha

2018-04-02 16:44:59 UTC  

Social democracy then has nothing to do with socialism ????

2018-04-02 16:45:17 UTC  

social democracy is about the transition towards socialism

2018-04-02 16:45:39 UTC  

socdems are pretty gay

2018-04-02 16:46:28 UTC  

>social democracy works within a capitalist system

2018-04-02 16:46:44 UTC  

fucking bro

2018-04-02 16:46:45 UTC  

yes

2018-04-02 16:46:55 UTC  

They use capitalism to move towards socialism?

2018-04-02 16:47:11 UTC  

no

2018-04-02 16:47:46 UTC  

They favour government ownership of the MoP.

2018-04-02 16:48:45 UTC  

Social democrats are ideologically socialists of sort.

2018-04-02 16:48:56 UTC  

Social democracy is just a means

2018-04-02 16:49:20 UTC  

a social democrat is something that supports those means

2018-04-02 16:49:30 UTC  

most socialists are social democrats

2018-04-02 16:49:35 UTC  

Jeremy Corbyn is a social democrat

2018-04-02 16:50:35 UTC  

Corbyn seems like a full blown commie

2018-04-02 16:50:45 UTC  

>_<

2018-04-02 16:50:52 UTC  

😂

2018-04-02 16:51:06 UTC  

Specially wheh he advocates for the take over of private property

2018-04-02 16:51:31 UTC  

^

2018-04-02 16:52:01 UTC  

That's the main difference between the left and the right in most countries

2018-04-02 16:52:07 UTC  

liberal democracy vs social democracy

2018-04-02 16:52:46 UTC  

liberal democracy is a different term

2018-04-02 16:52:50 UTC  

yes

2018-04-02 16:52:57 UTC  

It means you have many political parties

2018-04-02 16:53:01 UTC  

Confiscate corbyns toothbrush he prolly dont use since he is british and see if he belive in privat property

2018-04-02 16:53:23 UTC  

democracy means that

2018-04-02 16:53:44 UTC  

confiscate corbyn's cuppa

2018-04-02 16:54:03 UTC  

@NightOwl You can have an illiberal democracy

2018-04-02 16:54:14 UTC  

Democracy means just electing

2018-04-02 16:55:13 UTC  

yes that you can elect people to represent you

2018-04-02 16:55:34 UTC  

@NightOwl And you can elect the commie you want to represent you

2018-04-02 16:55:38 UTC  

that's democracy, or how we practice it in the west

2018-04-02 16:55:40 UTC  

yes you can

2018-04-02 16:55:51 UTC  

under a democracy you can elect anything

2018-04-02 16:55:55 UTC  

you can elect fascists

2018-04-02 16:56:13 UTC  

@Deleted User n illiberal democracy, also called a partial democracy, low intensity democracy, empty democracy, or hybrid regime, is a governing system in which, although elections take place, citizens are cut off from knowledge about the activities of those who exercise real power because of the lack of civil liberties. It is not an "open society". There are many countries "that are categorized as neither 'free' nor 'not free', but as 'probably free', falling somewhere between democratic and nondemocratic regimes". This may be because a constitution limiting government powers exists, but those in power ignore its liberties, or because an adequate legal constitutional framework of liberties does not exist.

2018-04-02 16:57:22 UTC  

@Deleted User Liberal democracy is a liberal political ideology and a form of government in which representative democracy operates under the principles of classical liberalism. Also called western democracy, it is characterised by fair, free and competitive elections between multiple distinct political parties, a separation of powers into different branches of government, the rule of law in everyday life as part of an open society and the equal protection of human rights, civil rights, civil liberties and political freedoms for all people. To define the system in practice, liberal democracies often draw upon a constitution, either formally written or uncodified, to delineate the powers of government and enshrine the social contract. After a period of sustained expansion throughout the 20th century, liberal democracy became the predominant political system in the world.