they still pursue dirigiste policies to a degree

@obrallaghan It's not, it's very funny

I do not want your Commie bullshit

lol @obrallaghan

https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/984571569107357697

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I complain about my history teacher alot

but she put robot chicken on as a history video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHSPP-CzNl0

so I can't complain *THAT* much

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jordan peterson is so desperate to paint post-modernism and modern progressivism as being marxist

um, that's because it is

why do you think that

It is quite literally an application of Marxist theory to social structure

is it because of oppressor/oppressed memes

No, it's because of my experience dealing with progressives

what does "application of Marxist theory to social structure" mean

Replace economics with social structure, replace bourgeoisie with white men, replace proletariat with minorities.

you could do the same thing with early liberals who were an influence on marx's class theory

the core of what you're getting at is that an anlysis of power dynamics = marxism

which is silly, the core of marxism has to do with a materialist interpretation of historical development and the role class struggle plays in this development

no, progressive "manifestos" and other similar writings are eerily similar to "down with the bourgeoisie" type stuff.

i don't think superificial similarities between polemics constitutes these ideologies being the same

I think this gives an accurate description of Liberalism, https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293022642230001676/434084687103787019/image.jpg

I'm not saying their the same, but they are eerily similar

literally can be used in a loose manner of meaning

Which is what I was doing when using the word "literally"

Meaning they are very similar and are against several of the same tenants of liberalism.

so when oldschool liberals like adolphe blanqui were writing about how there are two "classes", those who live by their own labor and oppressors who live on the labor of others

could you not just use the same example you have used with marxism and progressivism here

just replace the parasites with white men and those who live by their own labor with minorities

Liberalism, like any other ideology has many versions of itself, I am a classical liberal.

yes and adolphe blanqui was a classical liberal

many classical liberals had similar ideas

they were a big influence on marx

Also, at that time, society was something much more akin to exploitation.

That's why Marx has some valid criticism of society at the time he wrote, but now his points are mostly moot.

Society evolves and changes, ideologies do the same to match society.

I prefer to prescribe to the ideas of John Locke, except the blank slate idea.