etc...

nice

well first of all wealth redistribution isn't inherently marxist and marxism is not about "equality of outcome" and marx explicitly wrote that equality of outcome would not exist under socialism

i suppose a classless society would be more on the money, though this was something utopian socialists who were harshly criticized by marx advocated for as well

and yes, she is also a utopian, which is surprising considering we read almost exactly the same books criticizing utopianism growing up.

well marx criticized utopian socialists from a historical materialist perspective

but you also said he supported classles society, so just because he criticized them doesn't mean he disagreed with them on everything, as you yourself stated.

sure and i mean liberals and fascists don't disagree on everything

liberalism and fascism are still distinct ideologies

sure, but the point is that marx still advocated for classless society, so saying he criticized other ideologies for other things is moot.

i don't disagree with liberals on everything but i'm still opposed to liberalism

yeah but what i'm saying is that advocating for a classless society isn't inherently marxist

what would you consider your ideology btw?

not inherently, but it is still part of marxism, and everything else she says leads me to believe she just doesn't realize she is at-least partially marxist in her believes.

i usually just say socialist

without adjectives

I would put my sister probably closer to you then on the scale.

well i'm not a progressive

but anyways

not exactly like you though, I'd say she progressive socialist with a dash of marxism and a sprinkle I don't fucking know.

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This has been a good discussion, but I gotta go

see ya

i do agree that there are progressives who are anti-capitalist and you could say there is overlap between progressives and marxists, however, would you say that the majority of "SJW" types are anti-capitalist or marxist?

answer that question before u go

yee

I'd say that the majority of progressives don't even understand the consequences of their own ideology, certain believes in it are marxist, others are neo-liberal. All in all I don't actually think progressives really have much as a basis for their believes because it changes so much as they constantly shift the overton window and as they continually show they have no basis of principles. Overall I'd say that most are just in it for the virtue signaling points, but also don't fully realize it because let's be honest, most people are not very politically inclined and just go with what their told.

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commies?

where?

actually pinochet was a communist

because starvation = gommunism xD

kulaks amirite

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They're bully hunters.

are they showing their tits?

looks like it's going well for them

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