Message from @versterven
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did they pop up on their own?
Who gets to shoot the citizens that don't like being told how to live their lives? Government? Or local groups? Does it matter?
via armed rebellion
i dunno i mean every society is backed by the threat of force
Not true.
if you want to call like any organization of force no matter how decentralized and informal a government then fine but then asking how socialism could exist without a government is a pointless question since no society has or can
Everywhere else, you only fear the usage of force against you by the government if you broke the law.
yeah the law is telling you how to live your life
But the laws on one place are to stop people from actively harming society, the other has abusive laws that let government overstep into everyone's private affairs.
it sounds like you're making an argument based on the liberal dichotomy between positive and negative liberty
It sounds like you speak in paragraphs to avoid addressing arguments.
that's not a paragraph
Why did all those Cubans risked death to flee the utopia then? Stop monologuing your commie talking points and respond.
i dunno why do mexicans risk death to flee mexico
probably because the united states is richer than every single latin american country
with the overwhelming majority being capitalist
Was it good to live there and risk being one of the 30k killed by firing squads?
if you worked with the batista government or the usa then no it was not good to live there, and rightfully so
key figures from the previous administration and those who have shown themselves to do what amounted to treason had to be gotten rid of
also i don't think 30k people were killed by firing squads
castro killed my father
Man that's sad.
I cri
But what is the soylent green made of <:GWragMonkaS:390321742624849920>
dissent(ers)
No. The laws are in place to keep you from infringing on other people's rights, anything more than that is tyranny and I have no idea why you or anyone else would want that, it takes away your freedom and it's good for no one.
If an untyrannical law hinders you from living your life the way you want to, than it's only because a certain part of your way of life is infringing on someone else's rights (for example if your way of life includes killing or stealing). Otherwise I don't want the government to tell anyone what to do, it's needlessly authoritarian and stupid.
but muh paternalism. People don't know what they really want, it's better to have the state tell the mindless sheep how to live. <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>
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I feel bad for that black dude not having people at his birthday
I'd rather not acknowledge my birthday if possible.
It's nice hearing from family or the occasional card with cash in it, but I'm too old to give a damn.
the law telling you that you can't "infringe on other people's rights" is the law telling you how to live
Did you read anything after the word "no"?
Cuz I explained further
Laws are supposed to tell you how to live only in case you are directly hurting someone else and should otherwise be kept to a bare minimum
You don't use laws to tell people what to do just because you disagree with what just do or because you find it immoral
then why do you think laws should be used to stop people from doing things that "directly hurt someone else"