Message from @Baraban
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And that's becuase it sits well with human psychology
it's a system that arises on it's own, like natural selection
Yes. Because it's based on human nature
somewhat
it's human nature to want to survive, so a system where we can obtain resources without putting ourselves in physical danger is obviously more appealing.
I dont like this line of argument that it's based on human nature
I think it's a bad argument
especially in regards to property rights
property rights and capitalism is a new phenomena in regards to the existence of humans
Mate this Private Company is actuallly a Public Park, you fucking Capitalist
Humans are both selfish and competitive in nature. Capitalism takes that and uses it for the benefit of everyone.
you can attribute certain aspects of human nature to socialism
it doesnt mean them of nature
Life and Liberty are natural rights
property is not a natural right
you have to fight for both though
government is there to keep things civil, but other than that, it's all the same
In a world where the government doesn't exist, you can still own property. It is a natural right
But that's not the reason it's a good idea
It's because it really goes well with the human nature
In a world without a government you can own slaves, it doesnt make it a natural right
just because you can practice something without government, it doesnt mean it's a natural right
well it's going against someone else's natural right
Only if we agreed to make that a right, And typically your rights don't hurt other people, owning slaves does hurt other people - so no
It goes well with human nature as far as it is a good mechanism to maximize survival
it's not that complicated
I dont think it needs to go any deeper into psychology to explain it
that's not what it means
natural rights are independent of government
you tried to argue if something exists without government it that of nature
im telling you that's not correct
So are property rights
They are independent of the government
a natural right has to be independent. Property is not.
it is
it is
That's why I said in a world with no government
why do you think life liberty and property was adapted to life liberty and pursuit of happiness
I get you've read Lockes wiki entry
but it's not what is meant