property rights and capitalism is a new phenomena in regards to the existence of humans

Mate this Private Company is actuallly a Public Park, you fucking Capitalist

Humans are both selfish and competitive in nature. Capitalism takes that and uses it for the benefit of everyone.

you can attribute certain aspects of human nature to socialism

it doesnt mean them of nature

Life and Liberty are natural rights

property is not a natural right

you have to fight for both though

government is there to keep things civil, but other than that, it's all the same

In a world where the government doesn't exist, you can still own property. It is a natural right

But that's not the reason it's a good idea

It's because it really goes well with the human nature

It just does

In a world without a government you can own slaves, it doesnt make it a natural right

just because you can practice something without government, it doesnt mean it's a natural right

well it's going against someone else's natural right

Only if we agreed to make that a right, And typically your rights don't hurt other people, owning slaves does hurt other people - so no

It goes well with human nature as far as it is a good mechanism to maximize survival

it's not that complicated

I dont think it needs to go any deeper into psychology to explain it

that's not what it means

natural rights are independent of government

you tried to argue if something exists without government it that of nature

im telling you that's not correct

So are property rights

They are independent of the government

a natural right has to be independent. Property is not.

it is

it is

That's why I said in a world with no government

why do you think life liberty and property was adapted to life liberty and pursuit of happiness

I get you've read Lockes wiki entry

but it's not what is meant

I don't know what that is

you are your own property, and things that are an extension of yourself for the benefit of your survival is also your property.

you dont know who John Locke is

?

that is natural

No

you're arguing about natural rights and you dont know who john locke is?

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