are you referring to the soviet gnp per worker being 38% of that of the us

The soviet union was unable to take utilize it’s natural advantages.

is that what you're referring to or not

I do not believe that is what this document refers to.

How about you read it.

i just wanna know if that's the data point you were referencing

What are people actually actually conversing about?

I referring to this whole document.

not exactly sure. I think they're trying to make the claim that the eastern bloc was economically succesful

?

I actually don't know about that specific thing at all...

mera when you say "Russia asked the US to come over and analyze what went wrong with their economy after the USSR fell, and it was found that they were operating something like at half the economic strength." surely there is a specific part of the document that backs up that claim

i said that eastern bloc countries grew faster than capitalist countries on average

Is it an arguement of growth?

according to what crude propaganda?

I was couldn’t remember what exactly number were, so I said that to bring attention to it assuming you would ask for the source, which I provided.

if they grew faster, they would have overtaken capitalist countries. They didn't.

Such a worldview should have shattered long ago, why are you clinging to it?

plenty of "experts" were not even the slightest bit critical of data coming out of the USSR. It's like they never knew propaganda was an actual thing.

I'm pretty pro-capitalist in a lot of ways, but the speed of growth if a stupid argument :/ I don't get what you are arguing about.

and people regurgitate the same tired nonsense to this day

if anyone points out a flaw in their logic, they bury you in old propaganda and gish-gallop away

no wonder people grow tired of talking to someone like that

they are the ones who brought economic growth up

when you point out the horrors that stupid socialist policies lead to, the millions of deaths, it's whataboutism instantly to preserve the delusion.

muh millions of deaths

socialism is religious faith

and you're a fanatic

Vers how is that funny?

why do these deaths constitute an indictment of socialism yet the far higher death toll of capitalism does not

it's funny cuz that wasn't real socialism duh

nice meme

that's you in a nutshell

how

your entire movement is a joke

how is that me

"muh millions of deaths"

nice

you're such a great person

we should all strive to be like you

yes why does that count as an indictment of socialism