pretty sure the r. mutt toilet was squarely in the realm of dadaists

Marcel Duchamp i think

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_(Duchamp)

It's a bit more complicated than that, but yeah, it was inspired by the dadaist concepts. Like most things, the prelude to trolling and shitposting extended the liberties we take for granted.

gotta have some wierd games too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp0amfdxgbU

as far as local music goes most of the hard/abstract/electronics/noise scene is like aggressively political anarchist gendergays, so im kinda over it

i just feel like if i go to a show i cant talk how i normally would, although thats turning into everywhere lately

going to shows used to be about drinking beer and talking s†††

That reminds me of how over here, they shut down "metal", "rock" and "punk"-clubs (read; bars with live music), but kept dance clubs open because of "voilence".... I hate voilent clubs... so I went to bars... it was fucked up.

ill be honest ive seen and been involved with plenty violence at punk and metal shows

but raves have their own set of problems

its better for people to have a nice fistfight than OD 😄

I've had a few small incodents (rarley), but date rape was running wild in dance clubs, and the fights made no sence... you couldn't talk your way out of it.

@Reaps
Have you seen the video with Asian warski?

date rape is hard to police when girls are rolled outta their heads

also scene scum always rise to the top

All I can say is those clubs were nasty... just people looking to fight or fuck... at least I could meet people to chat about music in metal/rock bars.

"dare rape" <:think_woke:378717098681171988>

metal shows are not reall as violent as rap shows because metalheads dont generally pack heat to clubs

I wouldn't know... never went to a rap gig :/

theres nowhere else you can get the raw vocal prowess of good technical rap

I remember moshing at a Static X show

elbowed the bald guy next to me in the head

I would of loved to see ol' school Static X

I was like "fuck sorry man" and he was like "***NO WORRIES MATE***"

lol ya

i got socked in the nose, bleeding everywhere at Floater

lol... most metal heads are preety sweet.

guy pulled me out of the freegin pit to apologize and give me a cigarette and light it for me, and theres no smoking allowed in the venue

those kids really dont want you to actually get hurt very bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwIP5cN2p3E

I did artwork for metal bands for a while... I love the music, but I'm an introvert... eventually they wanted me to film the gigs. Never had any big problems that couldn't be resolved with "Chill out, I don't care".

filming gigs is fun, ive done it twice

sucks if the band isnt interesting

True

ive lugged s††† for bands, made them merch with spraypaint, and eventually got paid to run merch booths or film but only on super rare occasion, i wont help for free anymore

its like a networking thing where they forget that i have my own stuff i work on im trying to do anything with

Erg... people in bands can have massive egos.... I avoid working for them now.

any ego is fine with pay 😄

I dunno... I've worked with some real shitters.

i am much more concerned with the level of unprofessionalism with people organizing gigs