Dali was a clean surrealist. He came up with a concept and completed the work. Surrealism was about play.

his work is plenty playful

its much more palateable than many other surrealist artists who discredited him

iirc they were also annoyed he wouldnt join them in their various political leanings

:/

Surrealism wasn't political until the second maniphesto.

Which a lot rejected.

Why would an artist prescribe to an opinion rather than his own?

what's going on?

Breton said some s†††

but his work just aint as good

Breton was interesting, but the surrealist "movement" was like "grundge"... it was there before people tried to name it.

Ernst is a much better example, but he came from Dadaist stock.

I dont like the actual dadaist works that much because its just trolling

its funny and interesting but buying into it was just getting yourself trolled

That's what I liked about Dadaism.

yeah but would you pay money for a signed toilet

You mean post modernism?

Du-shamp or whatever?

pretty sure the r. mutt toilet was squarely in the realm of dadaists

Marcel Duchamp i think

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_(Duchamp)

It's a bit more complicated than that, but yeah, it was inspired by the dadaist concepts. Like most things, the prelude to trolling and shitposting extended the liberties we take for granted.

gotta have some wierd games too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp0amfdxgbU

as far as local music goes most of the hard/abstract/electronics/noise scene is like aggressively political anarchist gendergays, so im kinda over it

i just feel like if i go to a show i cant talk how i normally would, although thats turning into everywhere lately

going to shows used to be about drinking beer and talking s†††

That reminds me of how over here, they shut down "metal", "rock" and "punk"-clubs (read; bars with live music), but kept dance clubs open because of "voilence".... I hate voilent clubs... so I went to bars... it was fucked up.

ill be honest ive seen and been involved with plenty violence at punk and metal shows

but raves have their own set of problems

its better for people to have a nice fistfight than OD 😄

I've had a few small incodents (rarley), but date rape was running wild in dance clubs, and the fights made no sence... you couldn't talk your way out of it.

@Reaps
Have you seen the video with Asian warski?

date rape is hard to police when girls are rolled outta their heads

also scene scum always rise to the top

All I can say is those clubs were nasty... just people looking to fight or fuck... at least I could meet people to chat about music in metal/rock bars.

"dare rape" <:think_woke:378717098681171988>

metal shows are not reall as violent as rap shows because metalheads dont generally pack heat to clubs

I wouldn't know... never went to a rap gig :/

theres nowhere else you can get the raw vocal prowess of good technical rap

I remember moshing at a Static X show