Message from @versterven

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2018-05-13 11:00:57 UTC  

Such internalized misogyny, I literally can't even

2018-05-13 11:16:11 UTC  

@franti
Does those fuckers knows what philia means?

2018-05-13 11:16:31 UTC  

no

2018-05-13 11:16:50 UTC  

Also, all I see, is people dying to have her on the ibs shit for money

2018-05-13 11:16:58 UTC  

If you dont want to hunt them down you endorse them in their mind

2018-05-13 11:17:14 UTC  

Fucking retards

2018-05-13 11:17:41 UTC  

Aparently encyclopedia dramatica is a credible source

2018-05-13 11:18:02 UTC  

Ian is quite stupid, for a jornalist

2018-05-13 11:18:19 UTC  

@stillgray wanna comment on this?

2018-05-13 11:24:59 UTC  

Lol

2018-05-13 11:25:57 UTC  

He is here

2018-05-13 11:26:34 UTC  

Who?

2018-05-13 11:26:40 UTC  

Ian? I know

2018-05-13 11:28:23 UTC  

Brb

2018-05-13 11:28:32 UTC  

probably has this server muted

2018-05-13 11:47:40 UTC  

I don't agree with Tommy's choice to deplatform Ali dawah from the day of freedom march.

2018-05-13 11:48:31 UTC  

deplatforming anyone is censorship. It comes across as unprofessional for defenders of free speech to want to silence specific people.

2018-05-13 11:48:38 UTC  

You start to sound no better than the radical left.

2018-05-13 11:50:24 UTC  

Does this mean mexicans cant enjoy Taco tuesdays?

2018-05-13 12:01:47 UTC  

i don't necessarily think people should be grateful when their culture is appropriated from, but cultural appropriation is basically a non-issue imo

2018-05-13 12:01:54 UTC  

at best it's probably only tangential to real issues

2018-05-13 12:02:27 UTC  

culture is a set of ideas, you do not own them, so they cannot be "appropriated". They are shared and spread naturally, through human interaction.

2018-05-13 12:02:32 UTC  

ie the only representation of a minority culture within the mainstream is crude due to the marginalization of said culture, but in this case i don't think cultural appropriation the causal factor behind said marginalization

2018-05-13 12:03:02 UTC  

you can feel offended all you want, but that just makes you look like a complete and utter fool

2018-05-13 12:03:40 UTC  

cultural appropriation is a specific type of cultural exchange though where you take aspects from a culture in a superficial manner

2018-05-13 12:03:50 UTC  

no, it is nonsense

2018-05-13 12:03:58 UTC  

ie people wearing the indian dot thing as a fashion statement

2018-05-13 12:04:04 UTC  

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2018-05-13 12:04:13 UTC  

and not understanding whatever significance it has to dot heads

2018-05-13 12:05:05 UTC  

a complete non-issue. If anyone takes offense at something like that, they are free to dry their eyes, and grow a pair.

2018-05-13 12:05:50 UTC  

i think when it comes to immigrant cultures it's a definite non-issue because assimilation should be the focus with immigrants

2018-05-13 12:07:15 UTC  

They do not have to lose all of their cultural identity, but if their culture is mostly harmful, superstitious nonsense, then assimilation is preferable to 'integration'.

2018-05-13 12:07:18 UTC  

when it comes to aboriginal peoples like with native americans i can understand why it might sting for a marginalized and indigenous group to see their culture absorbed in a superficial manner by the dominant culture though here i think the real problem is the marginalization and not people wearing feather bonnets because they think they look cool or whatever

2018-05-13 12:08:08 UTC  

I can understand why they might feel such emotion as well, but I hold little sympathy for it.

2018-05-13 12:11:01 UTC  

They do not own the ideas, customs and behaviors of the culture they were born into. It is tribalist nonsense to feel such attachment in the first place. Especially when it comes to superficial stuff such as clothing and food.

2018-05-13 12:11:18 UTC  

i hold sympathy for it i just don't think the response should be for petite-bourgeois university students to castigate people for doing it

2018-05-13 12:11:36 UTC  

I can certainly agree with that

2018-05-13 12:13:45 UTC  

also i'm not sure that most actual native americans care anyways

2018-05-13 12:14:06 UTC  

most of them probably don't

2018-05-13 12:14:38 UTC  

iirc the vast majority of native americans were cool with that one football mascot or whatever people were angry about