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2018-05-15 06:45:48 UTC  

it happened within the context of arab spring

2018-05-15 06:47:12 UTC  

@obrallaghan Maybe taking down Assad and than instituting a democratic election would be the vest, but I don't know if NATO would have been able to pool that off

2018-05-15 06:47:27 UTC  

Democracy is very unstable in arab countries

2018-05-15 06:47:40 UTC  

NATO is the largest and most powerful allied force on the planet

2018-05-15 06:47:45 UTC  

Is there any example of a stable arab democracy?

2018-05-15 06:47:59 UTC  

I think they'd be better off with constitutional monarchies

2018-05-15 06:48:06 UTC  

i think democracy works fine, not necessarily liberal democracy

2018-05-15 06:48:17 UTC  

in arab countries

2018-05-15 06:48:23 UTC  

if it was sanctioned by the UN then many nations could contribute to establishing order

2018-05-15 06:48:25 UTC  

@Deleted User Yeah but if the majority of the citizens actually ask for it I don't see why not support them

2018-05-15 06:48:32 UTC  

true

2018-05-15 06:48:33 UTC  

Good point

2018-05-15 06:48:39 UTC  

as opposed to anyone country doing it in their own self interest

2018-05-15 06:48:40 UTC  

But do the majority actually ask for it?

2018-05-15 06:48:44 UTC  

Was a referendum held?

2018-05-15 06:49:18 UTC  

@obrallaghan I know what NATO is, I'm not retarded

2018-05-15 06:49:54 UTC  

I just can't imagine why you'd think they couldn't pull it off if it was truly a joint effort, as opposed to whatever the hell Iraq was

2018-05-15 06:50:05 UTC  

Syria has become a human rights issue

2018-05-15 06:50:15 UTC  

@obrallaghan you just need to look at NATO's track record to see why they couldn't pull it off

2018-05-15 06:50:20 UTC  

You need a lot more than just force to do that

2018-05-15 06:50:22 UTC  

They're toothless

2018-05-15 06:50:43 UTC  

that's what I'm saying, if ever there was a good cause this would be it

2018-05-15 06:51:00 UTC  

this isn't some "war for isreal or oil" like they say about every other conflict

2018-05-15 06:51:09 UTC  

it's a humanitarian issue at this point

2018-05-15 06:52:10 UTC  

The US really never went to a war for Israel, and I kinda doubt they gained nuch oil from any of their wars

2018-05-15 06:52:25 UTC  

It always sounded like bs to me

2018-05-15 06:52:27 UTC  

People like Ryan Dawson say that every war in the middle east was waged for Israel

2018-05-15 06:52:32 UTC  

oooh

2018-05-15 06:52:35 UTC  

this autism

2018-05-15 06:52:42 UTC  

They point out at Jews in the State's security council

2018-05-15 06:52:44 UTC  

Not saying there aren't private intersts involved

2018-05-15 06:52:46 UTC  

I'm not saying I agree with him

2018-05-15 06:52:54 UTC  

I think Dawson is silly

2018-05-15 06:53:10 UTC  

He thinks the middle east is star wars with Jews being the sith and the arabs being the Jedi

2018-05-15 06:53:10 UTC  

I know that's why I put it in quotations, because I myself do not believe that tells the full story

2018-05-15 06:53:14 UTC  

Absolutely zero nuance

2018-05-15 06:53:17 UTC  

Sign of low IQ

2018-05-15 06:54:46 UTC  

As far as I can tell he is a hippy globalist and he takes offense to the idea of state power, regardless of whether or not it uses the power to protect its civilian population, and he is upset that Israel is so vastly superior to its enemies that it takes little casualties while they keep getting ass-stomped

2018-05-15 06:55:03 UTC  

Don't be apologetic to hippy globalists

2018-05-15 06:55:07 UTC  

Israel has a right to uphold its borders

2018-05-15 06:55:48 UTC  

The guy is batshit crazy, he thinks Noam Chomsky somehow works *for* Israel