Message from @obrallaghan

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2018-05-15 06:42:44 UTC  

He can say that he doesn't know

2018-05-15 06:42:49 UTC  

Instead of pretending to have any insight on it

2018-05-15 06:43:05 UTC  

I have some knowledge
I am by far not the most well researched on the matter

2018-05-15 06:43:10 UTC  

@obrallaghan Well it's either a dictator or a bunch of crazy rebells this time

2018-05-15 06:43:12 UTC  

ok

2018-05-15 06:43:12 UTC  

but I have some idea as to what is happening

2018-05-15 06:43:14 UTC  

Take your pick

2018-05-15 06:43:17 UTC  

I'm sorry

2018-05-15 06:43:23 UTC  

@nic I take everything I said back

2018-05-15 06:43:28 UTC  

I don't think you're an idiot/imbecile/stupid

2018-05-15 06:43:36 UTC  

I retract my statements

2018-05-15 06:43:48 UTC  

syria's political system was actually liberalized a lot in response to the protests

2018-05-15 06:44:06 UTC  

i dunno if there would have been a proper civil war had it not been for western interference

2018-05-15 06:44:16 UTC  

@Baraban had Russia not used their veto power, NATO could have established order in the country and allowed for the people of Syria to decide how they are governed

2018-05-15 06:44:23 UTC  

power hungry islamists knew the west would have their back

2018-05-15 06:44:47 UTC  

The war started way before the west interfered @versterven

2018-05-15 06:44:49 UTC  

the Syrian refugee crisis is a horror show and is not in the best interest of anyone anywhere

2018-05-15 06:45:48 UTC  

it happened within the context of arab spring

2018-05-15 06:47:12 UTC  

@obrallaghan Maybe taking down Assad and than instituting a democratic election would be the vest, but I don't know if NATO would have been able to pool that off

2018-05-15 06:47:27 UTC  

Democracy is very unstable in arab countries

2018-05-15 06:47:40 UTC  

NATO is the largest and most powerful allied force on the planet

2018-05-15 06:47:45 UTC  

Is there any example of a stable arab democracy?

2018-05-15 06:47:59 UTC  

I think they'd be better off with constitutional monarchies

2018-05-15 06:48:06 UTC  

i think democracy works fine, not necessarily liberal democracy

2018-05-15 06:48:17 UTC  

in arab countries

2018-05-15 06:48:23 UTC  

if it was sanctioned by the UN then many nations could contribute to establishing order

2018-05-15 06:48:25 UTC  

@Deleted User Yeah but if the majority of the citizens actually ask for it I don't see why not support them

2018-05-15 06:48:32 UTC  

true

2018-05-15 06:48:33 UTC  

Good point

2018-05-15 06:48:39 UTC  

as opposed to anyone country doing it in their own self interest

2018-05-15 06:48:40 UTC  

But do the majority actually ask for it?

2018-05-15 06:48:44 UTC  

Was a referendum held?

2018-05-15 06:49:18 UTC  

@obrallaghan I know what NATO is, I'm not retarded

2018-05-15 06:49:54 UTC  

I just can't imagine why you'd think they couldn't pull it off if it was truly a joint effort, as opposed to whatever the hell Iraq was

2018-05-15 06:50:05 UTC  

Syria has become a human rights issue

2018-05-15 06:50:15 UTC  

@obrallaghan you just need to look at NATO's track record to see why they couldn't pull it off

2018-05-15 06:50:20 UTC  

You need a lot more than just force to do that

2018-05-15 06:50:22 UTC  

They're toothless

2018-05-15 06:50:43 UTC  

that's what I'm saying, if ever there was a good cause this would be it

2018-05-15 06:51:00 UTC  

this isn't some "war for isreal or oil" like they say about every other conflict

2018-05-15 06:51:09 UTC  

it's a humanitarian issue at this point