Message from @obrallaghan
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He can say that he doesn't know
Instead of pretending to have any insight on it
I have some knowledge
I am by far not the most well researched on the matter
@obrallaghan Well it's either a dictator or a bunch of crazy rebells this time
ok
but I have some idea as to what is happening
Take your pick
I'm sorry
@nic I take everything I said back
I don't think you're an idiot/imbecile/stupid
I retract my statements
syria's political system was actually liberalized a lot in response to the protests
i dunno if there would have been a proper civil war had it not been for western interference
@Baraban had Russia not used their veto power, NATO could have established order in the country and allowed for the people of Syria to decide how they are governed
power hungry islamists knew the west would have their back
The war started way before the west interfered @versterven
the Syrian refugee crisis is a horror show and is not in the best interest of anyone anywhere
it happened within the context of arab spring
@obrallaghan Maybe taking down Assad and than instituting a democratic election would be the vest, but I don't know if NATO would have been able to pool that off
Democracy is very unstable in arab countries
Is there any example of a stable arab democracy?
I think they'd be better off with constitutional monarchies
i think democracy works fine, not necessarily liberal democracy
in arab countries
if it was sanctioned by the UN then many nations could contribute to establishing order
@Deleted User Yeah but if the majority of the citizens actually ask for it I don't see why not support them
true
Good point
as opposed to anyone country doing it in their own self interest
But do the majority actually ask for it?
Was a referendum held?
@obrallaghan I know what NATO is, I'm not retarded
I just can't imagine why you'd think they couldn't pull it off if it was truly a joint effort, as opposed to whatever the hell Iraq was
Syria has become a human rights issue
@obrallaghan you just need to look at NATO's track record to see why they couldn't pull it off
You need a lot more than just force to do that
They're toothless
that's what I'm saying, if ever there was a good cause this would be it
this isn't some "war for isreal or oil" like they say about every other conflict
it's a humanitarian issue at this point