Message from @NightOwl

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2018-05-17 09:01:01 UTC  

Why do you guys have a hard on for great Britain?

2018-05-17 09:01:05 UTC  

i don't personally find all cultures to be equal no

2018-05-17 09:01:06 UTC  

I'd argue the same statement reversed @versterven He sees Liberalism as superior, Western culture the main outlet of liberalism

2018-05-17 09:01:59 UTC  

i'd take it even further and say he's even moreso an anglo/british supremacist

2018-05-17 09:02:01 UTC  

culturally that is

2018-05-17 09:02:29 UTC  

and in the past he has referenced aspects of british culture favorably that existed prior to liberalism

2018-05-17 09:02:40 UTC  

@Deleted User on what is a liberalist. A cringey name for a set of Liberal Secularist I'd think

2018-05-17 09:02:47 UTC  

we shit on britain constantly

2018-05-17 09:02:56 UTC  

Well I see a few British people here talking about it

2018-05-17 09:03:17 UTC  

to be fair though this example is years old, but in an old video he talked about an anecdote involving a british and roman woman comparing sexual attitudes with the british displaying more open atttitudes that sargon found as being favorable

2018-05-17 09:03:18 UTC  

@versterven usually by appealing to liberal values that said behaviour lines up with

2018-05-17 09:03:56 UTC  

i would at the very least say that regardless of cause and effect he sees them as being heavily intertwined

2018-05-17 09:04:44 UTC  

So it's not much of a presupposition then

2018-05-17 09:04:46 UTC  

@versterven because uncoupling those things is quite difficult, and we can't expect people to do that perfectly.

2018-05-17 09:04:50 UTC  

Liberalism has given us suffrage, emancipation, freedom of expression, freedom of speech, freedom of association. All these things are superior

2018-05-17 09:05:01 UTC  

the problem is now, is that they are under attack

2018-05-17 09:05:25 UTC  

And we Brits built that shit

2018-05-17 09:05:45 UTC  

Well I see others talking about it also

2018-05-17 09:05:47 UTC  

and Sargon is speaking out against it, which is why he's popular

2018-05-17 09:05:54 UTC  

Just wondering what's the deal

2018-05-17 09:06:32 UTC  

there are others speaking out, it's just the.... what would you call you guys? the internet communities are more drawn to youtube personalities

2018-05-17 09:06:45 UTC  

than politics

2018-05-17 09:07:42 UTC  

but yeah when i say sargonite liberalism i'm referring to a brand of liberalism that seems to be vaguely centrist or center right, is moderately opposed to progressivism, globalism, neoliberalism, and neoconservatism, and seems to generally have a very libertine character in a way that conflicts with the progressive brand of libertinism

2018-05-17 09:08:25 UTC  

The alt right Anarcho capitalists like monarchy

2018-05-17 09:08:34 UTC  

@versterven yeah I'd agree with that. Boners for giving your life at the alter of Patriotism isn't exactly compatible with that. Which is where we were in the discussion.

2018-05-17 09:08:57 UTC  

And it seems like you guys like Stefan Molineux

2018-05-17 09:09:00 UTC  

there are few ancaps on these servers worth talking to

2018-05-17 09:09:04 UTC  

that was intended to be a description not a criticism

2018-05-17 09:09:26 UTC  

i mean i actually do agree with a lot of those points

2018-05-17 09:09:40 UTC  

i'm opposed to progressivism, "globalism", neoliberalism, and neoconservatism too

2018-05-17 09:09:42 UTC  

@versterven What I was trying to get at is you claimed people here freak when people step out of said Liberalism. We weren't in that Liberalism.

2018-05-17 09:09:57 UTC  

you cant define an ideology on what it is opposed to

2018-05-17 09:10:05 UTC  

who is the guy who stepped out of it

2018-05-17 09:10:10 UTC  

Hans Hermann Hoppe is their god

2018-05-17 09:10:34 UTC  
2018-05-17 09:10:54 UTC  

That's what Stefan Molineux is based after

2018-05-17 09:10:54 UTC  

oh what did he say that you think departs strongly from sargon's brand of politics

2018-05-17 09:11:20 UTC  

@Deleted User It's not all ancaps

2018-05-17 09:11:27 UTC  

The concepts of needing to justify your life and redeem your own existence through supporting state military action

2018-05-17 09:11:40 UTC  

well he was just musing on a personal feeling he had was he not

2018-05-17 09:11:43 UTC  

It tends to be the younger people that have no clue what they are talking about