Did we get mixed up there or am I missing a joke? @NightOwl

Sargon liberalism is meaningless

yeah probably

sargon is a pretty staunch civic nationalist and western chauvinist who's opposed to "globalism"

What is a Liberalist exactly?

he sees western culture as being superior and also sees liberalism as being an inherent component of western culture

He may betray a certain patriotism in how he talks, but his declaritive values are fairly multi-cultural

@versterven Do you believe all cultures are equal?

Why do you guys have a hard on for great Britain?

i don't personally find all cultures to be equal no

I'd argue the same statement reversed @versterven He sees Liberalism as superior, Western culture the main outlet of liberalism

i'd take it even further and say he's even moreso an anglo/british supremacist

culturally that is

and in the past he has referenced aspects of british culture favorably that existed prior to liberalism

@Deleted User on what is a liberalist. A cringey name for a set of Liberal Secularist I'd think

we shit on britain constantly

Well I see a few British people here talking about it

to be fair though this example is years old, but in an old video he talked about an anecdote involving a british and roman woman comparing sexual attitudes with the british displaying more open atttitudes that sargon found as being favorable

@versterven usually by appealing to liberal values that said behaviour lines up with

i would at the very least say that regardless of cause and effect he sees them as being heavily intertwined

So it's not much of a presupposition then

@versterven because uncoupling those things is quite difficult, and we can't expect people to do that perfectly.

Liberalism has given us suffrage, emancipation, freedom of expression, freedom of speech, freedom of association. All these things are superior

the problem is now, is that they are under attack

And we Brits built that shit

Well I see others talking about it also

and Sargon is speaking out against it, which is why he's popular

Just wondering what's the deal

there are others speaking out, it's just the.... what would you call you guys? the internet communities are more drawn to youtube personalities

than politics

but yeah when i say sargonite liberalism i'm referring to a brand of liberalism that seems to be vaguely centrist or center right, is moderately opposed to progressivism, globalism, neoliberalism, and neoconservatism, and seems to generally have a very libertine character in a way that conflicts with the progressive brand of libertinism

The alt right Anarcho capitalists like monarchy

@versterven yeah I'd agree with that. Boners for giving your life at the alter of Patriotism isn't exactly compatible with that. Which is where we were in the discussion.

And it seems like you guys like Stefan Molineux

there are few ancaps on these servers worth talking to

that was intended to be a description not a criticism

i mean i actually do agree with a lot of those points

i'm opposed to progressivism, "globalism", neoliberalism, and neoconservatism too

@versterven What I was trying to get at is you claimed people here freak when people step out of said Liberalism. We weren't in that Liberalism.

you cant define an ideology on what it is opposed to

who is the guy who stepped out of it