Message from @NightOwl

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2018-05-17 09:05:45 UTC  

Well I see others talking about it also

2018-05-17 09:05:47 UTC  

and Sargon is speaking out against it, which is why he's popular

2018-05-17 09:05:54 UTC  

Just wondering what's the deal

2018-05-17 09:06:32 UTC  

there are others speaking out, it's just the.... what would you call you guys? the internet communities are more drawn to youtube personalities

2018-05-17 09:06:45 UTC  

than politics

2018-05-17 09:07:42 UTC  

but yeah when i say sargonite liberalism i'm referring to a brand of liberalism that seems to be vaguely centrist or center right, is moderately opposed to progressivism, globalism, neoliberalism, and neoconservatism, and seems to generally have a very libertine character in a way that conflicts with the progressive brand of libertinism

2018-05-17 09:08:25 UTC  

The alt right Anarcho capitalists like monarchy

2018-05-17 09:08:34 UTC  

@versterven yeah I'd agree with that. Boners for giving your life at the alter of Patriotism isn't exactly compatible with that. Which is where we were in the discussion.

2018-05-17 09:08:57 UTC  

And it seems like you guys like Stefan Molineux

2018-05-17 09:09:00 UTC  

there are few ancaps on these servers worth talking to

2018-05-17 09:09:04 UTC  

that was intended to be a description not a criticism

2018-05-17 09:09:26 UTC  

i mean i actually do agree with a lot of those points

2018-05-17 09:09:40 UTC  

i'm opposed to progressivism, "globalism", neoliberalism, and neoconservatism too

2018-05-17 09:09:42 UTC  

@versterven What I was trying to get at is you claimed people here freak when people step out of said Liberalism. We weren't in that Liberalism.

2018-05-17 09:09:57 UTC  

you cant define an ideology on what it is opposed to

2018-05-17 09:10:05 UTC  

who is the guy who stepped out of it

2018-05-17 09:10:10 UTC  

Hans Hermann Hoppe is their god

2018-05-17 09:10:34 UTC  
2018-05-17 09:10:54 UTC  

That's what Stefan Molineux is based after

2018-05-17 09:10:54 UTC  

oh what did he say that you think departs strongly from sargon's brand of politics

2018-05-17 09:11:20 UTC  

@Deleted User It's not all ancaps

2018-05-17 09:11:27 UTC  

The concepts of needing to justify your life and redeem your own existence through supporting state military action

2018-05-17 09:11:40 UTC  

well he was just musing on a personal feeling he had was he not

2018-05-17 09:11:43 UTC  

It tends to be the younger people that have no clue what they are talking about

2018-05-17 09:12:13 UTC  

and even then sargon has shown himself to be fond of the starship troopers thing where you have to serve in the military or do some sort of alternative civil service to vote

2018-05-17 09:12:42 UTC  

Probably? But that's clearly further right then Sargonism and you were claiming that discussion must rest WITHIN it else jimmies will be rustled

2018-05-17 09:12:56 UTC  

He has a book called From aristocracy to monarchy to democracy, A tale of moral and economic folly and decay

2018-05-17 09:13:01 UTC  

no i wouldn't say he's clearly further right,

2018-05-17 09:13:09 UTC  

but in any case i think a lot of sargon's fans are further right than sargon

2018-05-17 09:13:27 UTC  

patrioitism boners are certainly further right then Thatcherite Atomisation

2018-05-17 09:13:56 UTC  

@NightOwl @versterven an example would be people from LP. It was a majority ancap then they all shifted to authoritarian ideologies.

2018-05-17 09:13:57 UTC  

Petriotism boners > thatcher trash

2018-05-17 09:14:04 UTC  

Thatcher ruined everything she touched

2018-05-17 09:14:06 UTC  

Sargon is left of center, a social liberal

2018-05-17 09:14:10 UTC  

what about sargon's professed fondness for the militaristic civic nationalism of the society portrayed in starship troopers

2018-05-17 09:14:21 UTC  

a lot of edgy teenagers say they are ancap because they are part of this edgy meme culture

2018-05-17 09:14:27 UTC  

i highly doubt they understand it

2018-05-17 09:14:33 UTC  

@versterven the film full of satire levied at that concept?

2018-05-17 09:14:43 UTC  

yeah but sargon unironically liked the concept

2018-05-17 09:14:47 UTC  

@versterven doesn't conflict with social liberalism

2018-05-17 09:14:56 UTC  

yeah i'm not saying it does