but MAGA

https://youtu.be/iNac_I_CfFY?t=224

It's not possible. Only the Christian Worldview which focuses on the divinity/dignity of the individual created the culture. All the rest of history is filled with tribal/political violence in the flawed search for power.

You just described America

america is a place for all cultures. it's possible to find every range of being here..

No I described the violent communist utopias

youll find christians on one corner and violent hethens on the next

Also you realize countries with lower crime rates are more secular

Or serfdom, Or caste system or slaves. All these go against Christianity.

So invading a lot of native american territory isn't an example of that?

survival of the fittest?

That's exactly what Hitler would say

Might does not make right

survival of the rightest? 😮

Every Communist Regime was Atheist, because they make the State their God. They killed hundreds of millions because they don't value life because it is meaningless to them. UTD is pretty dumb.

hmm

I could name some shitty things Christians have done too. The actions of a few evil people don't represent the entire group

At this point you're just strawmanning me

not few

Atheists have no Grand Narratives or basis for Objective Morality. Everything is relative and subjective to each individual atheist. I'm assuming UTD supports secular abortion.

I actually value life a lot. That's why I went vegetarian

@Sooth Slayer it's not true When I was Ateist i'm also have morality

I could go into detail about my moral philosophy, but that would take a while. Essentially its an improved version of utilitarianism that focuses more on empathy and perspective than overall pleasure

No G, you copied Christian morality and claimed to discover it through atheism.

I will say more. 100% atheist closer to God than most Christian and agnostic

UTD, utility to who? The elite? The collective? The mother who wants abortion? And why do you presume other atheists want to focus on empathy or pleasure or truth? If it's all subjective, each individual will choose their own utility behavior. Killing poor and sick people is perfectly rational for a secular state with limited resources.

how is a future not inevitably doomed when those of it whom which cant survive without help from a store, vehicle, money, or another person entirely...?

Okay either you don't know what utilitarianism is or you're just strawmanning the shit out of me now

You are describing what is best for the collective. That is socialism dummy.

Firstly, I will not even quote from the Bible that indicate the correctness of my expression.

Secondly, I bet that 90% of women doing aborts consider themselves to be Christians.

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I define everything that is sentient to have moral value. Things which are not sentient don't have moral value because they lack the ability to care

If you're not a christian and have morals, those morals aren't coming from god, that would be paganism

which I used to be in my youngin days, I had morals and values but still had anger and resentment so therefore I was still lost in the spiritual sense

What good is values if you've still got hate

You can have morality and not believing in God. The very fact of denial of God does not deny the fact of his absence.
Here we are talking about the subjectivity and objectivity of opinion.

How do you define sentient? Are fetus' sentient? Old people with dementia? People in coma? When can they be killed? And that is your subjective morality, no one has to follow it.

When you can walk on 2 legs

Old people and people in a coma can't so that covers everything

Yet again. not all who call themselves Christians are. We already have the fact that abortions are common in black society and most black women consider themselves Christians and believe in God. The same with atheists, not everyone who calls himself that they are. More often we deal with people who simply use formulations, but create opinions based on resentment, than from common sense. So an atheist who uses common sense is closer to God than most Christians.

A lot of athiests & agnostics like to make that point, that you can not believe in God or believe in a "non-biblical" God & still have morals/values. I'm just saying that as per that was once my standing, I see clearly now my values were not coming from God but ego