However I always knew God and was close to God, I now call Yehovah. I never hated the LDS Church though I did see it as demonic.

Yes. He has had a similar experience. His ex wife is still LDS but his parents have passed and it’s difficult I think for him to reconcile that. Did your wife leave with you?

I see the LDS as a wolf in sheep’s clothing

No I was patient and for three years we differed but I never insisted she follow my footsteps. On occasion I would direct her to scripture to read and videos to watch. As she saw fit. She saw what I pointed out and then we were both out.

We were very close till her death in January of this year.

Any religion that proselytizes is going to get a sideways glance from me

Indeed. Not the way to do it.

I’m so sorry for your loss Steve. Memory eternal

Yes 41 years of memory. Most of my life.

I think I would be lost if my husband reposed. I can’t imagine after 41 years...halfway there and I just can’t imagine how difficult it would be. May your memories bring you joy and peace

A lot of what helped was we were on vacations and I would listen to a woman helping me out through videos she published on youtube. Patt would listen to them and it helped her understand what outside LDS was like. I always offered to wear headphones but neither of us liked them.

Think I am doing better than most. But very very difficult for sure.

Yehovah brings me joy and peace. I am so close to Yehovah I am never left alone.

I think the best way to share religious concerns is by living your life and as you did simply educating yourself. From a place of innocence for lack of a better word

@Steve Angell @Mary Poppins
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Yes. That worked. I was very careful to not upset her. Just slowly see the pitfalls of the LDS church. In the end it was me pointing out how the Church was changing doctrine while lying they were not changing it. She saw the evil of lying about that.

My parents and all my siblings (6) are still LDS. Two of my seven children are as well.

I think that as they see me cope with the loss of my wife it is making them question LDS. Why is he doing so well. How has this helped mim so much, leaving LDS.

the overall irony of this whole discussion is we're having it on april fool's day

@Steve Angell
The Church changing doctrine is becoming evident to more and more people! Never espoused to the Church, never will.

@SirW00f
Are we the Fools?

from out of the mouths of fools do we see true enlightenment

True we can find truth if we look for it. Analyze what is said.

There is one Universal Truth that I think we can agree upon.
We have been lied to in every part of our lives!

the thing is for us to learn is to observe and be shown the lies for what they are as lies, not truth...not be shown a narrative of lies and call it truth

i'm more trustful of science than of narratives of the msm news

but the science programming of the msm is a lie in itself wrapped in the notions of truth

science thru observations is the only truth

but only first hand observations..not on tv

action and reaction is the observable truth

@SirW00f
I have become sceptical of any teachings
Ironic since I was a Teacher for many years.
I was teaching pure “bull-shit”
Sickens me!

old saying - those that can, do...those that can't, teach

Thanks, dude!

it wasn't ment for those that can't do things ...it's ment for those too old to do anymore to do the teaching to those that can still do

I worked in a factory for 15 years as a labourer, before getting into the teaching field.

mastering skills and training apprentices to take over for them...that is what the meaning is for

i have learned from masters..and created new skills on my own..while discovering the skills of other masters...for now i teach those that haven't learned anything yet of worth so they can pass on the knowledge to others when it's their time to share the information without the narrative trying to change it so it's a lie and not lived truth

a lived lie is a life that has no meaning, but a lived truth has meaning and gives hopeful purpose to the next generation of lives

great, i got me speaking in proverbs today

well it is all fools day

That was my goal when I was responsible for over 5,000 Grade 8 students over my career.
To give them tools and requisite knowledge to succeed in Life and to be Good citizens.

well u have to ask urself this, are u a book teacher or a life lesson teacher with a book