Message from @MatiLuc

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2021-01-17 19:23:08 UTC  

About time! Should of happened years ago

2021-01-17 19:23:17 UTC  

I think Trump better hope that they find some proof of widespread voter fraud, because I predict that every family is going to include him in their suits. Had he not lied about there being fraud, their loved ones would likely still be alive. I bet there are tens of thousands of lawyers that would take that case on.

2021-01-17 19:23:20 UTC  

Yea, that's crazy it took so long.

2021-01-17 19:24:22 UTC  

Trumps got lots of problems coming šŸ˜‚

2021-01-17 19:25:03 UTC  

I'd think you have to make a really strong case that him spouting that would make him responsible for what they did after the fact. Especially when many of them acted of their own volition

2021-01-17 19:26:07 UTC  

That'd be like trying to convince a judge that some polls work as voter suppression

2021-01-17 19:26:54 UTC  

He's the source of the fraud claims... He called those people to DC... Him and his surrogates used provocative speech that reasonable people could interpret as a call to action. I think there is a case to be made and lawyers love to be on TV. All it takes is a sympathetic jury in a civil case.

2021-01-17 19:26:59 UTC  

I agree. I was watching live streams as all this happened, and I didn't think he was inciting anything, but people obviously see what he said differently.

2021-01-17 19:27:13 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772982351520333824/800446149626560522/Screenshot_20210117-142648_Chrome.jpg

2021-01-17 19:27:57 UTC  

Trump specifically said they would go to the capitol and be peaceful. Your major news networks won't have told you that, though. They always skip that sentence of the speech.

2021-01-17 19:28:57 UTC  

Again, it's a really huge stretch, and then you would have to link his speech to them choosing to storm the capitol

2021-01-17 19:29:27 UTC  

Yeah our economy has gone to shit. Thatā€™s what happens during a pandemic and lockdowns. Look round the world, we arenā€™t alone.

2021-01-17 19:29:37 UTC  

I know exactly what was said... I still think there is a case that can be made in a civil case and I predict that it will happen.

2021-01-17 19:30:02 UTC  

That'd be like someone trying to prosecute Bernie Sanders because of that one guy who used his speech when he chose to shoot GOP congressional reps at that baseball game

2021-01-17 19:30:15 UTC  

@Tom(FTP/Dwarves) what is peaceful. Zip ties. Guns. Bombs. Spears. Maze. Bats...militia...and screaming hang mike Pence. Heads on spike..shot them with their guns.

2021-01-17 19:30:26 UTC  

I just don't see it holding up to scrutiny,

2021-01-17 19:30:28 UTC  

You might also note that Trump was still speaking when the capitol was broken into, so it wasn't the people he was speaking to who did it.

2021-01-17 19:30:29 UTC  

@Tom(FTP/Dwarves), you just advanced to level 2!

2021-01-17 19:30:30 UTC  

This is kinda like everyone calling COVID the 'Trump virus'... even though it literally came from China...

2021-01-17 19:30:45 UTC  

I have no doubt it'll be attempted, but it likely won't go very far

2021-01-17 19:31:07 UTC  

@Beth we could've handled better as the most powerful nation on planet earth

2021-01-17 19:31:46 UTC  

Instead we are the worst. How come.??

2021-01-17 19:32:08 UTC  

Yeah everyoneā€™s like ā€œLook how many cases we have compared to European countriesā€.. well we test more an we are huge compared to individual European countries. But yano, itā€™s trumps fault, obviously šŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø

2021-01-17 19:32:36 UTC  

I don't think anyone disagrees that it might could have been handled better. You don't always get it right the first time... and no one has ever dealt with this before.

2021-01-17 19:33:03 UTC  

yeah, we can bomb people with impunity in other countries but can't find an extra dozen boots on the ground to stop Quanon conspiracy theorists from breaking windows and stealing podiums

2021-01-17 19:33:40 UTC  

Hind-sight is 20/20... it's easy to look back and say 'we could have done better'.... it's another to act like someone had all the answers on exactly what to do and did nothing.

2021-01-17 19:33:43 UTC  

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2021-01-17 19:34:01 UTC  

Yes?

2021-01-17 19:34:01 UTC  

@Beth, you just advanced to level 26!

2021-01-17 19:34:25 UTC  

No you don't... You have to convince a jury in a civil trial that without Trump falsely claiming fraud, calling people to DC to fight on his behalf... Having his lawyer call for a trial by combat... His son called for fighting. He sent them to convince Congress to do the right thing. And all hell breaks loose right after Trump tweets that Pence, in essence, betrayed them.

All you have to do is make the case that Trump's actions directly contributed to what happened - and the standard of proof is lower. The cases would never see their day in court, though... Trump will have to settle each one.

2021-01-17 19:34:43 UTC  

@Beth why we doing so bad ??

2021-01-17 19:34:59 UTC  

We are actually testing more people and recording that information... not every country is doing that.

2021-01-17 19:35:27 UTC  

because people are still debating on whether or not to wear masks.

2021-01-17 19:35:56 UTC  

@Adam135 for youre info adam get the real facts before running the mouth conspiracy is youre mouth

2021-01-17 19:36:43 UTC  

what exactly did I say was a conspiracy theory?

2021-01-17 19:37:06 UTC  

Like I said in a previous post, enough was said by the slate of speakers. It's hard to see calling for a "Trial by Combat" as a direction to proceed peacefully. I think that statement alone may have sunk Giuliani's relationship with Trump.

2021-01-17 19:37:43 UTC  

that those are the ones smashing windows not even close to being truthful it will come to light who it was very soon

2021-01-17 19:37:49 UTC  

No personal attacks, please!

2021-01-17 19:38:07 UTC  

it's fine

2021-01-17 19:38:10 UTC  

Because we are a big country. We have been testing better than any other country since the start of this. We have been recording deaths better than other countries have. Itā€™s not difficult to understand.

2021-01-17 19:38:42 UTC  

@Cali La La yes could be. That other countries are not keeping track.. but our response was a total disaster.