Message from @hollywoo685
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I really do like your sentiment, but it’s simply not true that trump didn’t do enough to get the vote out. One only need look at trumps campaign schedule versus Biden’s. It was approximately 5 Trump rallies scheduled for every Biden’s 2. And then Biden routinely cancelled his, not to mention they were minuscule in size when he did have them. The Biden team clearly did not place any value in holding campaign rallies, which further lends credence to the thought they planned to fraudulently win the election.
You missed my point... Not that Trump didn't do enough to get his vote out, but that he did more to get Biden's vote out with the talk of the Dems rigging the election. It literally became the rallying cry on the left. "Trump is going to claim that the election is stolen, Biden has to get so many votes that the outcome is not in question."
Every Trump rally where he claimed that the election would be rigged was played on MSM repeatedly with that same message to get the vote out. Trump's campaigning on a rigged election was the best thing that happened to Biden.
Ok, I understand that you’re saying now, but I disagree in that I never had the perception that his claims of election fraud motivated blue voters at all. None of my circle at least voted Biden for that reason. Common reasons I heard were “he should’ve encouraged people to wear masks” and “he kept interrupting Biden in the first debate”.
It would be interesting to know if your friends might admit to that being a motivating factor for ensuring to vote. It was in my circle - not the primary reason, but a contributing factor to ensuring to vote.
My friends were not happy to vote for Biden. For a ton of them he was a last choice candidate. They voted for Biden because it was a vote against Trump.
That's how I and almost every person I know personally felt about it. I'm sure there are Biden believers out there but I don't know any.
Change your news channel
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Thats the biggest travesty to this nation the information is so edited against freedom people don't even know what they are voting for
I do not have any consistently accessed news source, except maybe this channel. That said, perhaps not everyone is as susceptible to media influence as you seem to think they should be.
Its word of mouth from people that watch main stream media rather than researching. Maybe start with newsmax then try youtube Charlie kirk steven crowder maybe even a liberal like Tim pool. I don't have access either I just did my own research. I always check on a presidents accomplishments before an election
I have always been a republican because I knew that democrats were the party of slavery so when they call Republicans white supremist it makes me second guess the information source i am getting
I have seen all of them. That I am not operating as they direct is testament that one is not necessarily a product of the information they are fed. And I have been paying attention to Trump's accomplishments the entire term.
It was precisely Trump's accomplishments that made Biden a no brainer for me.
So 4 peace deals in the middle east of all places made you vote for biden
Unfortunately, I didn't limit myself to that. I'm complicated.
Ok so what did it? His Twitter when he calls a dumbass a dumbass?
@hollywoo685, you just advanced to level 2!
I realize that impresses a certain type of person but not me.
Did you follow him on twitter or just believe what you were told?
Truth doesn't care about your feelings. If you believe his twitter was appalling then you aren't a man. Period
That's a lot to unpack. However, it isn't necessary. I wasn't asking permission to have opinions about Trump's policies.
Why can't any biden voter get past that? What policy is unacceptable?
He closed the wealth gap for God's sake
A big pile of them, actually. The ones I dislike the most are repealing all of the EPA and SEC regulations, tax rewards for wealthy people with no obligation to reinvest domestically and science denial informing decisions about virology (and climatology, for that matter). Again, not asking permission.
And to your point, there is a price to pay for smash and grab economics.
Although I'm not even sure what you mean by 'closing the wealth gap.' I just took it as a general economy claim.
Do you know the benefits of repealing the EPA and SEC regulations?Do you know the tax rewards for the wealthy with bidens policies? You have everything completely backwards. Republican policies are about the republic, the people. The democrat policies are all about democracy, the government. Please find different places for information. From both sides. Then make a choice about who would be best for this country.
I am always finding new sources and am satisfied with how I arrived at my decisions in this case. It is not my first rodeo.
Do you have a 401k?
Unless you're suggesting that as a product of what information cocktail I selected, my ideology would be different. Then we would disagree fundamentally, before even getting to details.
And there is the problem
Do tell...
You select certain places get info based on your ideology rather than listening to many different ideologies
Do I? You can tell that solely by the handful of my opinions which I've bothered to offer?
By the same measure, I would suggest you're projecting.
But I'm going to bed. Good talk though.
I see the msm brainwashing on only 1 of your comments. Tells me all I need to know. The EPA was a dead giveaway.
@hollywoo685, you just advanced to level 3!
Completely wrong. USA now produces the lowest amount of emissions in the world. THANKS TO FRACKING. But the globalist can't have an energy independent country they lose too much money that way.
Large rallies are not the end all of campaigning especially if your side of the aisle takes a pandemic seriously and independents take the pandemic seriously. A key factor is ad spending in swing states to get your message out. Biden had effective ads and ran them in the right places with the lots of money he raised. Trump funneled 600 million from his campaign to a shell corporation for personal gain. Trump supporters can brag about Trumps little outings all he wants but none of them had the scope of replacing hundreds in millions in ads especially as he needed to reach independents who wouldn’t be at his rallies out of a pandemic not his hardcore supporters he already won over.