Message from @Nerv - VA
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I like Steve McNallen's take he did on Red Ice
https://youtu.be/MjAYoJRVA20
@Sam Southern - TN lol are people actually trying to sell that line?
I'm not saying that he established relations with them, I'm saying that his actions objectively benefitted them
no, you said he collaborated with them
which necessitates a relationship
again, unless you or someone else has evidence that he collaborated with them, that's a heavy accusation backed by nothing.
It's an accusation backed by the fact that he knowingly took action that was beneficial to them. From a moral standpoint, it doesn't matter if personally talked to them or not, because it would have had the same outcome.
It's undeniable that his actions decreased their chance of conviction, and it's undeniable that he knew what he was doing.
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an independent action, that everyone agrees was stupid, is incredibly different from "collaboration"
you chose a poor word that had implications you apparently didn't consider. everyone agrees he acted foolishly in a way that harmed himself and the case. switch to the second phrasing, and it's actually an accurate statement
Not everyone thinks it was stupid considering that people constantly defend him
Okay how about this
He took actions that had the same effect as collaborating
It was stupid, but again, Free Tommy was bigger than him.
Collaborating with them would necessitate that he is intentionally working with the enemy to undermine both English Nationalism and White people. That has ramifications that far outscope one court case
A tommy-free protest against grooming gangs SHOULD have risen. But didn't. It never did. You work with what you have
Do you think that Tommy is working with Muslims and other nonWhite groups to undermine the English and White people as a whole? Or do you think that he did something stupid?
I think Tommy is legit but he’s also Jewish.
Like if you see his old stuff I don’t think he is some plant or controlled opposition
But he is Jewish sooo
Like Stephen Miller and Loony Loomer the absolute Mad Lass.
Heebs can be used.
Lmao. Tommy the Jewish Muslim collaborator
Neither. He wasn't just stupid, he knew exactly what he was doing. But he (probably) wasn't sitting there and going "haha I'm gonna undermine white nationalism". The truth is somewhere in between.
The reason I used the word "collaborated" is because the way I understand the word, if two parties take mutually beneficial actions, they're "collaborating". In this case, the grooming gangs gave him publicity, and he gave them a chance to get their trials nullified.
Now, if your understanding of the word "collaborate" is that it necessitates a verbal agreement, then, I agree, they didn't. @Sam Southern - TN
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN lmao no, it should not have risen
What he did objectively decreased the victims chances of getting justice. Even the pro-Tommy crowd concedes that.
Why do you think it's okay to decrease rape victims chances of getting justice?
Don't buy what?
"Justice"
What an overrated thing
I watched a whole thing about why he does what he does.
If putting rapists in jail is overrated then why do you care about this at all? @Josh M. -OH
@Jacob by "tommy-free" I meant a protest sans tommy. That didn't happen so you work with what you have (a tommy involved "free tommy") my apologies for unclear wording
Justice wont change anything that's why. You really think that'll deter other Muslim grooming gangs? No
Tommy changing sentiment towards muslims and getting whites angry might.
Damage us already done to those girls. How about stopping it from happening again?
And Jacob I will ignore that unfair and disingenuous stab at me. Because we're friends.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Ya, I'm still gonna have to disagree with that. We don't want to send a message that it's okay to use rape victims as political pawns like he did.
This is so dumb. Watch tommy Robinson’s talk at oxford.
... Wait wait? I mist be misunderstanding. You don't like Tommys shenanigans but you would ALSO oppose a protest movement against grooming gangs that Tommy wasn't a part of??
You said we should work with what we have, which is a free Tommy protest. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding you.
This is such bullshit now.