Message from @Sam Southern - TN
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free Tommy protests were pretty insane actually
White dudes finally had a legit and good reason to go off against the system *that would be supported by most of the more mainstream dissident right
eh it wasn't really legitimate
I suppose apathy is the elite's strongest tool. they wait for a protest to dim
Tommy Robinson collaborated with the grooming gangs by giving the judge an excuse to nullify the trial
it was legit enough in their eyes to mass mobilize, their press laws are fuckin retarded anyways
>collaborated
m8 lol
Not the verb I would pick
bc it's inaccurate lol
I disagree with the Greg Johnson take on Tommy.
BritBongs don't disobey their masters often. When they have a reason to awaken the Saxon you don't stop it
If you break laws on reporting on ongoing trials, it gives the judge an excuse to nullify the trial for prejudicing the jury and set the suspects free. You can disagree with the law, but, the fact remains, that he was well aware that the law existed and he was well aware that it would increase the gang's chance of going free.
He assisted them in a literal sense.
The occupied-UK kritarchy was never going to seriously punish the groomers.
collaborating, your word, implies that he worked with them in order to ensure that the grooming gangs would get their mistrial. that is a heavy accusation to levy against a man you don't know.
unless of course you have a behind-the-scenes in with Tommy and know that he wanted to ensure that the grooming gangs would go free to rape more English children, which would be something that the dissident right at large would need to know
Justice vs preventing it from happening again. Tough choice imo
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN It's not like people haven't been convicted in similar cases in the past. Softer punishments than they should have gotten, but still harder than if the trial got nullified.
no one is denying that he acted foolishly. I am aggressively denying that he established relations with the grooming gang in order to "collaborate" with them to secure their mistrial, unless of course someone has evidence that he has done so.
I like Steve McNallen's take he did on Red Ice
https://youtu.be/MjAYoJRVA20
@Sam Southern - TN lol are people actually trying to sell that line?
I'm not saying that he established relations with them, I'm saying that his actions objectively benefitted them
no, you said he collaborated with them
which necessitates a relationship
again, unless you or someone else has evidence that he collaborated with them, that's a heavy accusation backed by nothing.
It's an accusation backed by the fact that he knowingly took action that was beneficial to them. From a moral standpoint, it doesn't matter if personally talked to them or not, because it would have had the same outcome.
It's undeniable that his actions decreased their chance of conviction, and it's undeniable that he knew what he was doing.
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an independent action, that everyone agrees was stupid, is incredibly different from "collaboration"
you chose a poor word that had implications you apparently didn't consider. everyone agrees he acted foolishly in a way that harmed himself and the case. switch to the second phrasing, and it's actually an accurate statement
Not everyone thinks it was stupid considering that people constantly defend him
Okay how about this
He took actions that had the same effect as collaborating
It was stupid, but again, Free Tommy was bigger than him.
Collaborating with them would necessitate that he is intentionally working with the enemy to undermine both English Nationalism and White people. That has ramifications that far outscope one court case
A tommy-free protest against grooming gangs SHOULD have risen. But didn't. It never did. You work with what you have
Do you think that Tommy is working with Muslims and other nonWhite groups to undermine the English and White people as a whole? Or do you think that he did something stupid?
I think Tommy is legit but he’s also Jewish.
Like if you see his old stuff I don’t think he is some plant or controlled opposition
But he is Jewish sooo