reeeee, everytime

> Tunisia?

@TMatthews Nah I think they were already religious in Ukraine. I heard that the pentecostals claim to be persecuted.

It's really weird because Ukraine itself is almost entirely Orthodox, but the Ukrainians I grew up around were almost all Protestant

Tunisia being in there is odd too

@Jacob That may be it. Religiosity correlates strongly with birthrate, especially when the religious group forms its own community

Yeah but you have to think, here in WI I'm sure most people dont get abortions

but if you get into racial areas such as Milwaukee

I'm sure it's abortions everywhere

WI is in the lower range (8-11%). Maybe 5% in rural areas, 25% in Milwaukee?

For being a lower range that is still many many abortions

Yeah a US map by country or even just a further breakdown would be nice liek the EU one

I would say I would live in a relatively rural region but I have never met anyone or heard of anyone around my area of getting one

Are we discussing that abortions shouldn't be legal, or that they should be but anyone getting them is bad? I'm anti-abortion but always find guys on the right are for it bc black people demographics

You can't do one by county because not all counties have clinics and recording/disclosing the addresses of women who get abortions would break multiple laws

@Flint IIRC a red elephants had a video where he mentioned that and that some states abortions are ~50% white women so it would hurt us just as much

For sure, but as I said in WI's scenario I can guarantee it's all the blacks in Milwaukee/Kenosha

Abortion is undeniably eugenic, though one can make a case that it enabled the sexual revolution, which was dysgenic. That said, we don't want to come across as cheering on what many would consider to be the murder of black babies in the womb.

I personally wouldn't get rid of it and would prefer some kind of financial incentives for smart (and even average IQ) whites to have kids

I think abortion encourages rampant degeneracy. And as far as minority demographics, they'd increase--but so would ours (if no behavior changed)

I would love government incentives that only go to married couples to have children

Minority populations would increase much faster. The effect on whites would probably be very small since women would take more precautions without abortion as a backup plan

Personally I believe abortion should go. As Flint said, it does increase degeneracy. With abortion people can freely have sexual relations and basically have zero consequence

@TMatthews They definitely have a very tight community. Even the second generation marries almost exclusively within their in group.

27+ forms of contraception and women *still* have unwanted pregnancies

Like, bro, c'mon...

We need to bring back social stigmas against premarital sex, at least outside of a serious relationship

It's not really about contraception, it's about modern society enabling sexual degeneracy

If consequence isn't brought back to our society, we will never heal as a society

Hell, we haven't even stopped the spread of the degeneracy disease--let alone move towards healing

Quite frankly, a lot of blacks just don't think long term enough that it would matter. The idea of their birthrate doubling is terrifying

Its so easy to not get pregnant

I'd be against a total abortion ban, but I'm more split on abortion in general

I support it in cases of rape or birth defects

I'd like to make birth control free and not have it require a doctor's prescription. In the long run, it would save money on welfare

Any move on our end gets out maneuvered by the left bc the left is all about instant gratification *for all peoples, bigot* and all resistance to it has already been inoculated by tearing down the Church, morals, and 'prudes'

If the statistic is true that there are around ~50% white women getting abortions that's is a large number of whites increasing. In fact, it would be logical that minority racial groups would decrease as they wouldn't be able to get abortions, and if they did get pregnant, that's 9 months they are out of "the game."

I totally support stigmatizing pre marital sex for non religious reasons

2/3 of black pregnancies end in abortion. I don't remember the number for whites, but it's nowhere near 50%

When I say that our society has AIDS, I mean it: all of our cultural defenses have been defeated and we're open to any illness they can think of

The thing about premarital sex though is that marriage is more expensive than if you are just a couple, which is why most people aren't getting married in modern times