I think the long term strategy holders are like young adults in the US now who think Social Security will be there for them when they're of age

That's why its grabbed my attention

@celticflame Yeah, the police and ff solidarity may embolden other EU nations, too

Exactly

iinm, Belgium is having some yellow vest protests now, too?

When you have the whole civilian populations joining together.... looks like its spreading into other countries,not sure of which ones exactly. I just started seeing some of this so...

And then depending on the demands and concessions made and given, it'll rile up others in the nation (antifa, invaders, Muslims)

Had a late night,just getting coffee,lol😂😋

Yes that too

Lot's of variables, could go anywhere. The possibilities are exciting but that 66% of France that voted for Macron points to the French putting themselves in the same stupid position again

I hope not

I think this just goes to show if you want to get thousands of people at a moments notice to massively rise up against their system, appeal to their economic security.

Variables are really endless, that's quite true @Kingfish

Gonna go have my coffee ttyl😉

Think I'm outa the loop

What's happening with France?

Did they find their spine or something?

lol, kind of.

I think the variables are quite simply really, bread, circus, morals.

They voted for a guy their televisions, newspapers, magazines, and radio hosts all colluded together telling everyone to vote for, and now they're angry about it and protesting who they voted for. It's typical French reaction to everything they do: surrender peacefully to being dominated, then getmadbro @bspon002

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The French are, at their core, romanticists and that makes them extremely susceptible to voting with their feelings rather than their minds.

Unless the French show some sort of ideological change in this protest, things will go right back to the same 'ol same 'ol. I think most of us are more excited that a Euro is actually doing something other than sticking up for Muslims after terror attacks

And hoping (praying) this signals some kind of change

Most heads are in the clouds right now at the thought of it

@bspon002 It started with general protests and outrage over rises in fuel taxes, however, it has slowly become a larger anti Macron sentiment, and is starting to spill into other countries in much smaller numbers as a general anti elite demonstration

@Flint Right. They have to want it enough. History has not been kind to them in this regard (they usually end up needing rescuing)

yeah but he asked why they're rioting not the philosophical French mentality

Gas tax

That was the straw

But if that's all it remains, then it will be settled and business will be normal again

Macron will probably placate them with a referendum for free gas for half a year or something, so long as they allow more refugees. French people will concede.

https://youtu.be/uNs3rv40z-I alao getting caught up,just started to watch this,may help some too..

Well yeah, they're rioting over taxes, if they're given what they want they will probably stop rioting eventually.

makes sense to me

Someone tell Frenchie that migrants decrease wages..

It's not the whole story, tho. They're in the situation they're in because of everything leading up to _WHY_ those gas taxes were put into place. Simply being mad about the EFFECT, rather than the CAUSE, and conceding when the simple EFFECT is lessened, doesn't solve their problem. So no...it shouldn't make sense if/when they crawl back into their living rooms to watch television and stop rioting over having the tax decreased or lessened.

Yeah, it was only the last straw

That's great but economics is going to be what gets these people out and moving

Yep

I hope they can get a grasp of their own narrative before the media co's mold it