Salvation is also a super vital topic. If you view God as someone who just throws people in hell every other minute for not following a religious organization, then I advise you recalibrate how you view God and the world

the war on terror was just another crusade

change my mind

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What are the beliefs of your respective churches on abortion?

That it is wrong

i dont current go to a church but its what i believe

I as a woman of faith don't believe in abortion. But... I'm not gonna go and force people not to do abortion. But I do wanna stop the media and other demons from convincing prospective mothers to abort.

I believe that it is very immoral but I'm Baptist and it really depends on the church you go to some are more conservative in their beliefs and some are more liberal

abortion as presented by planned parenthood was meant to be a eugenics program targeting minority mothers

i heard about that. also how they take stem cells from the embryos that are aborted which makes me very uncomfortable

yes we are gonna treat you for your cancer with cells from aborted babies, no thank you please

But if I was given the opportunity I would absolutely make abortion illegal

I believe abortion is awful and always wrong :)

when does science and ethics cross the line? when death is involved

The whole abortion debate to be honest was started by feminists. I, as a woman, in general, even without faith, don't believe in feminism. People say it's about equality but anyone with their own sane minds can see through the lies that feminism is not about equality, it's about demonizing men for acting in their respective natural way of behavior, it's about accepting men who act more feminine and disregarding masculinity, it's about changing American culture, it's about sexualizing society as much as possible, and it's about taking away everything that defines a man by violating the nuclear family, victimizing women who they themselves don't feel they are victims, and flat out creating this matriarchal dominatrix kinda way of life for society moving forward. It's depressing and wrong, but most importantly, it is unnatural. SO feminism today is basically getting into all the subtopics of men and women in society and feminists in their cursed minds believe women are being oppressed by the very child that they hold and nurture within them. It's pure evil.

Get rid of feminism, find real gender equality that truly tolerates women's decisions and doesn't regard patriotic women as oppressed, and peace will have been achieved in every day American life

victimization leads to polarization

and polarization has cause such a division in our country rn that no side can understand the other

but i digress

search how many babies have died in the name of science and it will make you sick

> search how many babies have died in the name of science and it will make you sick
@Zallis The Pokemon I already have. It's disgusting.

But the main problem comes when a woman feels in doubt of herself taking the next steps, not because she's feeling doubt naturally but because it's been pressured into her by foreign actors like friends and some strangers too who want to make the decision of keeping this child or not for those women.

ya

it can also be a bf or husband who has doubts or wants the baby

It's just hard to get around. I'm all for free will, if a woman wants to abort, that's fine with me(even though if you didn't expect or want a baby in the first place you should've used safer sex alternatives like condoms, just saying). It's none of my business what she does. But to force women to choose whether to abort or not, I'm not exactly a fan of.

> But if I was given the opportunity I would absolutely make abortion illegal
@SomeSouthernGuy I agree. It is absolutely despicable and literally makes me sick. Look up how they are aborted up to the 32 week mark(D&X method), makes me want to throw up. https://www.all.org/learn/abortion/abortion-methods/

we have some people who protest our neighborhood planned parenthood buy standing in front with a sign that says pray to end abortion. but you drive by and you think to pray every time you see it which is nice

Like if I was having doubts about having a child, I would not abort myself. If my husband wanted me to abort, I still wouldn't. But if I was the one who wanted to abort and my husband didn't want me to, I would not abort. Why? Cuz that's how I was raised. Coming from a historically conservative and republican family, I've learned more manners, morals, values, and responsibilities than probably the entire democrat party combined.

Not married, just talking about the future I guess lol

thats good i feel many people arent taught basic moral values

That's gonna change when Trump implements his 1776 Commission plan to our American schools

Yeah the whole problem is just ridiculous. Shouldn't have ever been a problem. Murdering the most innocent life form among humans shouldn't ever appeal to anybody.

The only acceptable reasons for abortion in my opinion are rape, incest, and medical issues. idk what you guys think, but I know that God wouldn't send a child to my future wife to kill her, unless it was part of a greater plan.

> The only acceptable reasons for abortion in my opinion are rape, incest, and medical issues. idk what you guys think, but I know that God wouldn't send a child to my future wife to kill her, unless it was part of a greater plan.
@DrStrange77 What if, because this sometimes can happen, your future wife who is expecting a child is at risk of losing her life if the child is born. Do you choose to save her and abort or take the child and the risk of, God forbid, her loss of life? Because some Christians say you save the mother and continue pro-creating until it's safe for an operation where both the baby's and mother's lives, but others say you take the risk and never consider aborting the child.

it would be both our decision but in the end i would feel my wife would want to have the child

Quite a common belief to be honest

I believe that as well, and I strive to marry somebody who believes that. I would like to try and birth the baby, and get as far along as possible in the process. If, for example, my wife develops a severe medical issue and the baby is at week 24, we would likely go as far along in the process and then transfer the baby to an "artificial womb" while my wife goes under surgery.

Of course this is all speculation, but in this scenario that is what I would do.

Good answer

It all depends on what we would feel like of course, and how we are guided. Wouldn't be an easy decision thats for sure

I looked at a study and there is a definite difference between what liberals think is morally right compared to concervatives