Message from @White Feather

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2020-12-02 21:21:06 UTC  

God, Jesus and Holy Spirit are one

2020-12-02 21:22:14 UTC  

You really can’t take one without the other

2020-12-02 21:22:29 UTC  

God and Holy Spirit are just as real as Jesus. I understand that you can't see God or Holy Spirit but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Hope that make sense

2020-12-02 21:24:20 UTC  

Going back to the topic of mortality, humans are corrupt, so when we follow mortality throught the lenses of human we will have a flawed mortality. God is perfect therefore his mortality is superior to our view of mortality

2020-12-02 21:25:23 UTC  

@White Feather I understand fully understand what you are saying. It was torturous for me to come to terms with the idea that I may need toss aside all my loves that I can see with my own eyes, for a God I have never seen. On the part of Jesus, he said he was the Son of God. One cannot be the son of a non-existent archetype. Either Jesus was a lunatic when he said he was the son of God, in which he should not have been executed and should be pitied. Or he was a liar, and deserved execution for being a rebel rouser. You can't say that you like Jesus, and yet want the security of having a grand purpose in the world without admitting that you're either listening to the words of a lunatic or a treacherous bastard.

2020-12-02 21:28:30 UTC  

The reason why I am guarded around the idea of the results mattering more in regards to moral acts, is that if it Western culture, specifically of the American variety, was the most stable and most productive one in the world, and required the deportation or elimination of individuals that would not adhere to it to survive, I would fight with every iota of my soul against it. even if it resulted in the death of my culture, my people, and my family.

2020-12-02 21:29:09 UTC  

None of those should ever stand as rivals to God, and righteousness.

2020-12-02 21:29:19 UTC  

People don't want to follow religion because it means change in their cushy lives. They're far too lazy and priveleged to consider someone above them and to act on someone else's will.

2020-12-02 21:34:30 UTC  

To Deify any of the aforementioned things has always led to ruin. Nationalism that is not tempered by righteousness unleashes a horror of the likes of Nazi Germany. The deifying of race leads to a racialist ethic that would justify the extermination of other races to aid your own. And it frightens me that I can very easily use publicly available statistics to justify such a travesty.

2020-12-02 21:36:07 UTC  

Look, We have different values, If continue this nice conversation will devote into a shouting match. I value the world more than god. Thats just who I am, It might be sinful but thats just a value. I respect your decision to do what ever you want, i'm not you and I don't know your values. No matter what you tell me, you will not change my value. No matter what i tell you, I wont change your value

2020-12-02 21:36:23 UTC  

Lets agree to disagree

2020-12-02 21:36:47 UTC  

I meant no offense. I have not use profanity. Although we may never see eye-to-eye, I very much appreciate this exchange. I thank you for that.

2020-12-02 21:37:58 UTC  

I just hope that you can understand that my beliefs don't come from hatred. As I know yours does not come from disdain of me.

2020-12-02 21:39:57 UTC  

When you say you value the world more, what are your values based on? Keeping the world healthy? Do your values change often?

2020-12-02 21:42:24 UTC  

Mo-me119, most level headed individuals like him that I've talked with adhere more towards the Golden rule. Do unto others as you would have done to you. I may not hold that as the moral sovereign of the world, but it is still, at the very least, a quite respectable ideal.

2020-12-02 21:47:03 UTC  

He has defended his view very admirably, unlike many Christians and non-believers that I've witnessed. This was a very good conversation.

2020-12-02 21:47:41 UTC  

I also don't have any values in politics. Having value in politics like, the state should have more power will lead to you making the wrong choice just because it full fills your world view. The thing I hate most about American Politics is how it has become a game of Us and Them, Red vs Blue. Both sides are guilty of this. You refuse to listen to arguments that make sense because your values are different and because they are Blue, or wha ever tribal name you give them. TL;DR, I hate the modern Tribalism that is politics

2020-12-02 21:48:08 UTC  

@Raging Smurf Yeah definitely, just curious about the values changing

2020-12-02 21:48:35 UTC  

Most definitely. I may conservative, but I find tribalism of a political nature to be insufferable

2020-12-02 21:49:13 UTC  

Are guys referring to identify politics or is that different from tribalism?

2020-12-02 21:49:17 UTC  

I don't put any labels on myself because that would just make possible friends into emeys

2020-12-02 21:49:18 UTC  

Yes, it's frustrating and often leads people to ignore or downplay the significant downfalls of their preferred candidate

2020-12-02 21:49:58 UTC  

Half of Bidens are trumps votes were because They didn't want the over side in power

2020-12-02 21:50:03 UTC  

@DeButcher i would say they are different but similar

2020-12-02 21:51:14 UTC  

I don't doubt that there were a large amount of votes that were cast out of near animalistic hatred of the Party and their "I'll" or whatever the hell they call their rivals.

2020-12-02 21:51:30 UTC  

*Ilk*

2020-12-02 21:52:45 UTC  

Well gentleman, this was a sound investment of my time, but I must be off. Dinner awaits. Farewell.

2020-12-02 21:52:51 UTC  

okay

2020-12-02 21:53:12 UTC  

2020-12-02 21:55:23 UTC  

Dinner? R u not in US?@Raging Smurf

2020-12-02 21:56:06 UTC  

It's 5:00 here.

2020-12-02 21:59:29 UTC  

5 is too early for me, lol

2020-12-02 21:59:42 UTC  

Anyway enjoy your dinner ✌️

2020-12-02 22:57:53 UTC  

I got back from work and took a long nap lol

2020-12-02 22:58:47 UTC  

But I hope yall are doing well

2020-12-02 23:18:00 UTC  

I will love You, O Lord , my strength. The Lord is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer; My God, my strength, in whom I will trust; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold. I will call upon the Lord , who is worthy to be praised; So shall I be saved from my enemies.
Psalms 18:1‭-‬3 NKJV

2020-12-02 23:27:04 UTC  

I wholly believe God is the only one deserving of praise and glory.

2020-12-02 23:57:44 UTC  

Yup

2020-12-02 23:59:25 UTC  

Do not be wise in your own eyes; Fear the Lord and depart from evil. It will be health to your flesh, And strength to your bones.
Proverbs 3:7‭-‬8 NKJV

2020-12-03 00:55:47 UTC  

Any prayer requests tonight?

2020-12-03 01:01:01 UTC  

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