Message from @P0ke
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That;s harsh.
assuming you didn't get dunked in the head with said grenade
what else do you do when people are in large numbers being violent? apparently asking them not to doesnt work
> That;s harsh.
@P0ke better then live ammunition or rubber bullets
I guess this argument depends on your opinion on tear gas.
or would you prefer the firehose
I'd prefer Kyle Rittenhouse
> or would you prefer the firehose
@ThiccSpicyGenderRevealParty Government Owned Super Soaker*
Fuck around and find out.
But it's wrong. Cops are literally not supposed to be equipped with tear gas. It's possibly even illegal to use it.
Would you prefer the cops use an LRAD?
It's legal mate.
wait... what?
LRAD, the make people go home
Banned in war*
> But it's wrong. Cops are literally not supposed to be equipped with tear gas. It's possibly even illegal to use it.
@P0ke in an actual military setting, yes tear gas would be illegal as it would fall under the category of chemical weapons, however, like Counter Terrorism Units, Police aren't held to the same standards as military personnel
hence why they use it
Military also aren't allowed to use hollow points but they are legal for civilians. Being illegal for military isn't a good point.
the link you sent even backs what we're saying...
> They're using tear gas against civilians.
@P0ke They're not soldiers though, they are police
Ah, damn.
You can still use it on civilians if they are getting too close or violently aggressive.
> You can still use it on civilians if they are getting too close or violently aggressive.
@Rocci They didn't get violent...
Military is supposed to fight the other side, and kill if necessary. Police are not supposed to fight and kill the opposition, so they use non-lethal alternatives to try to avoid having to go to lethal force...
If they are getting too close*
Even then, its still better then Tiannamen where peaceful student protesters were massacred by chinese troops
i am back now
🤦
what did i miss
as in actually peaceful student protesters were shot at with autocannons and tanks by chinese military
Also, after seeing all the rioting and violence in other cities, do you really think the police should not bring tear gas?
We are now discussing what the best non lethal weapons the cops can and should use.
thanks david
saying they didnt get violent isnt a good argument. one side of politics says they are never violent. if you can get a good example where people werent violent at all, were completely peaceful, and there was no violent activity going on in the area around the time police decided to use tear gas, Ill concede and condemn that use of tear gas. But when shit is going down, people are getting violent, and large crowds are forming... the police are more than justified in using less than lethal means to disperse the crowds to prevent more violence and potentially deadly interactions.
they are even more justified when verbal requests to disperse are ignored, and *the requests sometimes even invite people to get more riled up at the cops.
My head really hurts. I'm arguing with trump supporters.
the logic can be hard to handle sometimes