Message from @P0ke
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They're using tear gas against civilians.
Military also aren't allowed to use hollow points but they are legal for civilians. Being illegal for military isn't a good point.
the link you sent even backs what we're saying...
> They're using tear gas against civilians.
@P0ke They're not soldiers though, they are police
Ah, damn.
You can still use it on civilians if they are getting too close or violently aggressive.
> You can still use it on civilians if they are getting too close or violently aggressive.
@Rocci They didn't get violent...
Military is supposed to fight the other side, and kill if necessary. Police are not supposed to fight and kill the opposition, so they use non-lethal alternatives to try to avoid having to go to lethal force...
If they are getting too close*
Even then, its still better then Tiannamen where peaceful student protesters were massacred by chinese troops
i am back now
🤦
what did i miss
as in actually peaceful student protesters were shot at with autocannons and tanks by chinese military
Also, after seeing all the rioting and violence in other cities, do you really think the police should not bring tear gas?
We are now discussing what the best non lethal weapons the cops can and should use.
thanks david
saying they didnt get violent isnt a good argument. one side of politics says they are never violent. if you can get a good example where people werent violent at all, were completely peaceful, and there was no violent activity going on in the area around the time police decided to use tear gas, Ill concede and condemn that use of tear gas. But when shit is going down, people are getting violent, and large crowds are forming... the police are more than justified in using less than lethal means to disperse the crowds to prevent more violence and potentially deadly interactions.
they are even more justified when verbal requests to disperse are ignored, and *the requests sometimes even invite people to get more riled up at the cops.
the logic can be hard to handle sometimes
ad hominim moment
> the logic can be hard to handle sometimes
@Wardog It's not that. It's that there is no logic.
but fr
Here hows this
they always come here to "talk" but always turn to insults... then call us the bad guys. its the same old same old. typical leftists.
please dont use trump suppourter as an insult my homie
Hollow point ammunition is banned in war because its worse to get hit with one of those instead of normal ammunition
Alright, let's tone down the animosity around here. 🙂
we're in a democracy, and we can suppourt any canidate we want, even if you (possibly rightfully, no idea myself) think it's stupid
but its better for cops to use because they don't have to worry about the bullet overpenetrating and striking a civillian behind the criminal
Can we talk about something else
sure
alright
Sure.
Ok. You choose the topic.
Economy?
Guns
Remember, this is still a conversation about the candidates. 🙂