well

sort of

I knew about it before

but he explained it in a way I understood

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again. gerrymandering is done by BOTH sides of the parties.

Again I never claimed otherwise @isoboto

CGP Grey is awesome. i like him a lot

You trying to start shit with me?

Bottom line is if ur so dumb you can't figure out how to get an id of some kind you shouldn't be voting anyways

And yes even those poor oppressed minorities down here can afford the $15 id fee thingy

Bottom line is if you don't know what gerrymandering is maybe you're not in a position to say voter suppression doesnt exist

<:KEK:726877368601411624> I never thought I'd be supporting something McG says

He literally lives in the South.

Cool

I am very certain he knows what goes on there.

So the south has voter suppression?

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I'll actually somewhat agree with this. It shows a degree of ignorance to the actual problem when you aren't familiar with issues like Gerrymandering

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lol
>"not enough minorities have voter IDs"
>"thus we should abolish voter IDs and make the voting process less secured"

Ok i apologize fornthe cardinal sin of not knowing the definition of a word

@VulpesVulpes I like you, idk your political beliefs but you're pragmatic and I respect that

I'm rightwing, but I have a high degree of apathy and contempt for humanity, so It makes me come off more like a centerist. Usually.

It's either being pragmatic or having your head in the clouds

@isoboto Vulpes and I said that IDs should be free and not require a trip to the DMV, I dont see how thats undermining voter ID laws and making voting less secure?

sure, that's somewhere to start with

I hate the dmv as much as the next guy but if u cannot afford a $15 id you have much bigger issues than not being able to vote

For instance, I think you're right, citizens who don't have ID's and thus are not allowed to vote is a problem, even if it's a small one, so the obvious solution is making ID cards universal. It also solves issues that we have in Social Security being used as a pseudo ID card

It's not about the price, it's also about the time spent doing that

@VulpesVulpes I'm the same, I'm rightwing by a British standard, I'm pro monarchy, pro military etc but socially I'm heavily left

Socially I'm mostly apathetic. Do what you like idc, I care more about economics

The only issue I have with ID cards for everyone is making sure that they are only given to citizens, especially if they're going to be used as voter ID.

Oh shit, *scheduling your time like an adult, how difficult*

Can't believe the entire city of atlanta manages to vote with all the horrible evil racial suppression down here

It’s important

Thats really not how it works @Mcgoober

Don’t be “apathetic”

How does it work then

I don't care about social issues. As long as people leave me out of them they can live their life