Message from @Kitty Lee

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2021-01-08 08:58:28 UTC  

I believe that we need to fix the election processes or there is no future for conservative or libertarian in this country. Suits need to be filed sooner rather than later and go up to the highest courts. If they fail then I believe we are in a failed state and there will be no way back.

2021-01-08 08:58:28 UTC  

@Lesa A, you just advanced to level 3!

2021-01-08 08:59:49 UTC  

its a good question, i really dont know

2021-01-08 09:00:47 UTC  

the election boards here used covid to pretty much ignore state laws about voting

2021-01-08 09:03:03 UTC  

This is the time, the country has to act fast. Prior to possible court packing.

2021-01-08 09:03:19 UTC  

going to walmart or a bar or a casino or even a strip club is fine, but voting was terribly dangerous and allowed absentee voting for all and no request needed, thats our law here

2021-01-08 09:03:42 UTC  

was the law i should say its ignored i guess because "covid"

2021-01-08 09:30:29 UTC  

Will you be filing a lawsuit?

2021-01-08 09:31:31 UTC  

That's not how I read it... She indicated that there would be National Guard earlier in the letter. She was asking that other Federal officers - especially plain clothed ones that were armed - not be there, because it caused confusion with MPD and other agencies there to provide security. That's different than saying she didn't ask for the National Guard.

2021-01-08 09:32:27 UTC  

Plans change hourly in these sorts of situations.

2021-01-08 09:32:52 UTC  

What’s the general consensus on the lax security ? @TaLoN132

2021-01-08 09:33:12 UTC  

I would love to. I will consult a lawyer but as I live in FL I would most likely not have cause or standing. FL did well on our election. Other than passing the 15 dollar an hour min wage.

2021-01-08 09:34:20 UTC  

All of the accommodations for CoVid were temporary changes made under emergency powers given to the respective Secretaries of State/Commonwealth and/or election boards. That is why they were upheld by the state and US Supreme Courts. The temporary nature meant they were not changes to the laws as many asserted and there is no need to sue to get them reverted because they are well... temporary.

2021-01-08 09:35:55 UTC  

When has the govenment in power ever given that power back after they have it?

2021-01-08 09:36:09 UTC  

Fortunately, you don't have to, because the story that these laws were changed was false. They were just temporary.

2021-01-08 09:36:40 UTC  

No laws were changed. There is nothing to give back.

2021-01-08 09:41:33 UTC  

I think that police didn't think it would get to that level of frenzy. Most people have a reverence for the seat of our democracy. And I think that was mostly born out by the way they walked in an orderly fashion within the velvet ropes. Breaking into the chambers and offices was going too far... And trotting out with a podium... No words.

I think MPD usually have to give people a stern look and they get back in line. It's kind of like the legends of the Swiss Guards that protect the Pope. They are supposed to be able to hold back a crowd of 10k with a single solder.

2021-01-08 10:16:17 UTC  

Shameful scenes. Nothing was achieved...& now we have tin pot regimes around the world questioning our democracy. Never thought I would see the day.

2021-01-08 10:17:19 UTC  

why fast if the courts get packed it is the end of America as we know it. they can look at it anytime after they would never use the latches Excuse...

2021-01-08 10:29:00 UTC  

emergency powers given to the respective Secretaries of State/Commonwealth and/or election boards. i would like to know whom gave them these powers? Most just assumed they have had them all along. for accuracy i know about PA and GA agreements. but like in you're state CA they just said "THIS IS THE WAY" and sent out Ballots to everyone that was later shut down by the court. but Wi, Mi well 1/2 of them there some did hit the books from governor legislature. so what did the other 45 states do? like texas the left claim that they suppressed the vote but not close to the truth they just did not let others just decide to make these new Covid rules as we go...

2021-01-08 10:32:23 UTC  

Is that what you think happened? The shooting was a false flag operation?

2021-01-08 12:53:37 UTC  

A lawless act

2021-01-08 12:53:37 UTC  

@Massie1223, you just advanced to level 8!

2021-01-08 13:17:10 UTC  

Can a individual citizen sue the Russia Hoax accusers for assaulting and incapacitating The President of the United States?

2021-01-08 13:48:46 UTC  

No.

2021-01-08 13:48:55 UTC  

That would involve a lack of standing.

2021-01-08 13:59:26 UTC  

Incapacitating. We endured 4 years of "Trump gets things done" and now it's "Trump was incapacitated"? Pick a lane.

2021-01-08 14:13:50 UTC  

@RobertGrulerEsq I hear Harris and other ridiculous congress members talking about the "rule of law" but the law was clearly broken and the non-legislative branches dictated the voting criteria in the contested states (clearly in contravention to the law). I don't hear any of them talking about those groups breaking the law. Equal application of the law needs to apply anywhere and everywhere. Selective application of the law means that there will always be people pushing the limits. Think of it this, way if you and a sibling were to do something wrong and your parents only punished you even though both of you broke the exact same rule. Both of you would have very different feelings about the "application" of the "rules" and it would give your sibling the idea that he/she could get away with anything and you would believe the opposite and look at your parents as dictators.

2021-01-08 14:14:57 UTC  

Rule 1 of politics: Politicians will never be consistent.

2021-01-08 14:15:28 UTC  

@Zuluzeit Trump did somehow get an amazing amount done, but he was unable to clean house in the DOJ and intel community because of "muh Russia." This is unfortunate because those have become key levers of power and are threatening our system of government.

2021-01-08 14:17:28 UTC  

Appoints executive branch leaders -> Fires them -> Begins to appoint people in very peculiar ways to the position indefinitely in improper ways. -> Still fires them.

2021-01-08 14:21:41 UTC  

It should be pointed out that those who started the destruction in DC (are not Trump supporters) they were "Antifa/Blm" in disguise. With one identified as John Sullivan from Utah. The "MSM" have labeled them as Trump supporters which is wrong.
Also, buses were escorted all the way to the area that the riot started by Sheriff units and black cars/suvs and the DC Police Commander sent officers home @ 10:30am or earlier. Also the officers present guided them into the area. They also refused assistance from the FBI and Secret Service.

2021-01-08 14:21:51 UTC  

Naw.

2021-01-08 14:22:18 UTC  

This is just another excuse for "my side can't do anything wrong".

2021-01-08 14:23:21 UTC  

@Maw there are video evidence of these statements.

2021-01-08 14:23:38 UTC  

Yea the police presence at the capitol was scantier than anything I've ever seen at a major protest and I've been to a lot of them.

2021-01-08 14:23:51 UTC  

There is video evidence which you are presuming is showing what it isn't.

2021-01-08 14:25:38 UTC  

The group in this chat who are intensely proud of the insurrection will be disappointed to hear that the glorious endeavor was not implemented by actual Trump supporters