@Logan no he got married to a woman.

He filed bankruptcy.

I hope he’s doing alright. What’s the point of cutting ties when we could have helped?

can I not just watch my racism podcasts and not be inundated with thoughts and feelings about things?

@Nerv - VA he's doing fine

all jokes aside

Had a baby coming didn’t he?

he had a family to start and had to beat the lawsuit. Patrick has been clear in his updates about Nate that he needed to go his own way for a while. He wanted to finish school and get back into the movement as of a year ago. Even if that changed, what matters it?

I guess it just sucks cause He’s the reason I joined in the first place. He’s one of the best speakers I’ve ever seen. I’m sure some of you have seen the TYT interview.

I don’t know bankruptcies freak me out.

A lot of folks came to IE through that interview

he is a great speaker. nothing freaks us out though. it isn't great but I don't know if I care that he declared bankruptcy over a lawsuit.

actually, I think it is ideal that someone gives their all and moves on. He isn't a target now and now Patrick is in charge which was always the best option. For this movement to be what Nathan envisioned, we need someone with greater poise than JT or MacDonald in charge.

(just freestyling here, not saying you are in disagreement)

@Nerv - VA I wrote a (very) short story recently about someone in the boondocks corresponding with someone in Virginia who was implied to be well-connected to the goings-on of government and society. Maybe you are that person I wrote about without knowing it.

CIA??

I don’t know I don’t like the idea of people being forced out of the movement through lawfare.

@Logan Can you see me glowing?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ko2sIllVVek

no it isn't good but given the circumstances I think it is ok. If even Patrick was to have bebe or be litigated to oblivion I would support him stepping aside for 12 months or more if it took away from his and our distraction.

really, people are expendable in this and those who get burnt like tinder should be proud they did their bit. maybe that is easy for me to say because we did ours and backed away from the scene somewhat and without drama

I just think of those in central europe in the 40s who suffered worse fates and remember how lucky Nate is and how double lucky the rest of us are to have survived Cville and tempting dox in other ways

Yea I’m sure it’s been discussed and well thought out by smarter people than me. It just bums me out for some reason.

it is nothing at all. he could be on twitter right now and we wouldn't know the difference. they can't hurt us right now. and that isn't to whitepill OD. It can get worse tomorrow and probably will but White people are here to stay. The more they push the more we are tempered.

@Nerv - VA yea. I've been bummed out before. Can't remember by what though at this moment. The only real regret I had is supporting Eli being named CO.

we all acclaimed him but at the time I was thinking Patrick or someone else should have been inserted

a learning moment for me personally to know the difference between solidarity and foolishness

Yea you’re not the only one. I almost left TBHz

you knew Eli was bad news at the time?

It wasn't 100 percent clear for me. I didn't know he had been such a turd on TDS

No I didn’t know all the other stuff, I just didn’t think he was a good leader.

I should have known he was stolen valor though. That was so obvious. No one really talks like that. @Tyler0317 has his way of talking about it but it isn't like Eli at all

Yea, I didn’t know any of that. He just looked like a turd and I knew some behind the scenes stuff unrelated to the stolen valor.

Didn't he claim to be deployed to Iraq, but he only ever went to Kuwait?

yea

I don't know if he ever went there though

doesn't matter really

at Cville he was loud and obnoxious. "Get the f*cking men to the front!"
It was total LARP

Patrick and many others saw him in his full inglory

There was other stuff besides that. Also he was obsessed with appealing to the left which I think he got from Spencer.

People get sent to Kuwait a lot, but it's just a base not a warzone.