Message from @Norman
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yes
Lol
gtg for 2 minute
This convo pretty interesting
Lol
Then you clearly dont understand philosophy
Imma take philosophy in college
If you think that every philosophical question must be enacted physically
literally stupid
Like nihilists agree with the position that life has no inherent meaning does that mean they need to kill themselves cause they find evidence to suggest its the truth? No. Thats rëtarded
This is impossible to know as I can only impart the morality I have. Speculative morality of a hypothetical person in a narrow hypothetical set of circumstances is worthless
clearly they agree with the idea without having it to come in conflict with their material lives
Not only are those questions impossible to answer, answering them wouldn't benefit us in any way
this is dodging the question
i am point out how in a subjective world view, you can't universally condemn such acts
Correct
That's the point
You can't
additionally, if the society's culture you lived in changed so that people thought it was okay to say, kill Ukrainians, you again cant condemn it, except saying "it is currently not acceptable in our society to do such a thing!"
And if you say you can, it's incumbent upon you to prove that
so if a political party in america said we should indoctrinate the youth into hating tibetans and wanting to genocide them, what basis would you have to oppose that action?
You're saying "if society changed its moral stance, then morals would be different"
Yes. You're starting to become a subjectivist
no
I would because I am morally opposed to genocide
but if you were raised in a society where it was okay
you would not be morally opposed to it?
It's impossible to answer that, but sure. If I was taught and raised that that was OK and never exposed to a different Form of moral reasoning, it's likely that I would be ok with genocide
That makes sense to me
and that is equal in your view
to thinking genocide is bad?
What do you mean by equal?
as in, there is no distinction
we have no basis to condemn genocide, outside our own society's norms
Correct. Do you have one? I'd like to hear it. That could be massively powerful
okay then
so if i say I really fucking hate chinese
and i want to exterminate each and every last one of them
but
before i do it
i change the society's norms into accepting such an action,