Message from @bigasslips50

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2020-12-24 23:54:43 UTC  

uh huh

2020-12-24 23:54:43 UTC  

I can believe in the moral system I was raised into and acknowledge that others won't. My personal unresponsiveness to moral situations doesn't change that it's possible to have other systems

2020-12-24 23:54:46 UTC  

you cant condemn the actions of another society internally

2020-12-24 23:54:50 UTC  

how

2020-12-24 23:54:54 UTC  

This is the argument you keep making

2020-12-24 23:54:59 UTC  

Norman

2020-12-24 23:55:01 UTC  

well the morality is "subjective"

2020-12-24 23:55:06 UTC  

Yes

2020-12-24 23:55:07 UTC  

so by your standards they did nothing wrong

2020-12-24 23:55:13 UTC  

You realize moral relativism doesn’t mean people agree with morals existing right

2020-12-24 23:55:15 UTC  

Not personally

2020-12-24 23:55:25 UTC  

not personally

2020-12-24 23:55:25 UTC  

It's possible that they didn't even think so

2020-12-24 23:55:32 UTC  

People don't always DO moral things

2020-12-24 23:55:36 UTC  

if you lived in russia at the time, would you say what was done was wrong?

2020-12-24 23:55:41 UTC  

Like norman are you the type of person to tell a nihilist to kill themselves because they think life has no meaning

2020-12-24 23:55:51 UTC  

yes

2020-12-24 23:55:55 UTC  

Lol

2020-12-24 23:55:55 UTC  

gtg for 2 minute

2020-12-24 23:56:05 UTC  

This convo pretty interesting

2020-12-24 23:56:08 UTC  

Lol

2020-12-24 23:56:10 UTC  

Then you clearly dont understand philosophy

2020-12-24 23:56:27 UTC  

Imma take philosophy in college

2020-12-24 23:56:30 UTC  

If you think that every philosophical question must be enacted physically

2020-12-24 23:56:39 UTC  

literally stupid

2020-12-24 23:57:32 UTC  

Like nihilists agree with the position that life has no inherent meaning does that mean they need to kill themselves cause they find evidence to suggest its the truth? No. Thats rëtarded

2020-12-24 23:58:07 UTC  

This is impossible to know as I can only impart the morality I have. Speculative morality of a hypothetical person in a narrow hypothetical set of circumstances is worthless

2020-12-24 23:58:09 UTC  

clearly they agree with the idea without having it to come in conflict with their material lives

2020-12-24 23:58:42 UTC  

Not only are those questions impossible to answer, answering them wouldn't benefit us in any way

2020-12-25 00:08:58 UTC  

this is dodging the question

2020-12-25 00:09:20 UTC  

i am point out how in a subjective world view, you can't universally condemn such acts

2020-12-25 00:09:34 UTC  

Correct

2020-12-25 00:09:37 UTC  

That's the point

2020-12-25 00:09:45 UTC  

You can't

2020-12-25 00:10:02 UTC  

additionally, if the society's culture you lived in changed so that people thought it was okay to say, kill Ukrainians, you again cant condemn it, except saying "it is currently not acceptable in our society to do such a thing!"

2020-12-25 00:10:03 UTC  

And if you say you can, it's incumbent upon you to prove that

2020-12-25 00:10:21 UTC  

okay then

2020-12-25 00:10:53 UTC  

so if a political party in america said we should indoctrinate the youth into hating tibetans and wanting to genocide them, what basis would you have to oppose that action?

2020-12-25 00:11:05 UTC  

You're saying "if society changed its moral stance, then morals would be different"

Yes. You're starting to become a subjectivist

2020-12-25 00:11:12 UTC  

no

2020-12-25 00:11:17 UTC  

I would because I am morally opposed to genocide