Message from @Norman

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2020-12-25 00:13:10 UTC  

to thinking genocide is bad?

2020-12-25 00:13:20 UTC  

What do you mean by equal?

2020-12-25 00:13:29 UTC  

as in, there is no distinction

2020-12-25 00:13:43 UTC  

we have no basis to condemn genocide, outside our own society's norms

2020-12-25 00:14:04 UTC  

Correct. Do you have one? I'd like to hear it. That could be massively powerful

2020-12-25 00:14:12 UTC  

okay then

2020-12-25 00:14:22 UTC  

so if i say I really fucking hate chinese

2020-12-25 00:14:31 UTC  

and i want to exterminate each and every last one of them

2020-12-25 00:14:34 UTC  

but

2020-12-25 00:14:36 UTC  

before i do it

2020-12-25 00:14:46 UTC  

i change the society's norms into accepting such an action,

2020-12-25 00:14:51 UTC  

you would not oppose me?

2020-12-25 00:15:21 UTC  

Before we go off into another hypo with the exact same answer, let's focus on the question we already established it leads us to

2020-12-25 00:15:21 UTC  

GG @WMLC, you just advanced to level 4!

2020-12-25 00:15:27 UTC  

no

2020-12-25 00:15:31 UTC  

answer the question

2020-12-25 00:15:32 UTC  

yes/no

2020-12-25 00:15:42 UTC  

It's impossible to answer that, but sure. If I was taught and raised that that was OK and never exposed to a different Form of moral reasoning, it's likely that I would be ok with genocide

2020-12-25 00:15:47 UTC  

That makes sense to me

2020-12-25 00:15:52 UTC  

no no

2020-12-25 00:15:57 UTC  

thats not the answer

2020-12-25 00:15:58 UTC  

i said

2020-12-25 00:16:04 UTC  

i would change the society

2020-12-25 00:16:10 UTC  

you are already born in this example

2020-12-25 00:16:26 UTC  

It's impossible to answer that, but sure. If I was brainwashed/hyponotized that that was OK and never exposed to a different Form of moral reasoning, it's likely that I would be ok with genocide

2020-12-25 00:16:40 UTC  

no

2020-12-25 00:16:43 UTC  

on this example

2020-12-25 00:16:46 UTC  

you are not brainwashed

2020-12-25 00:16:48 UTC  

the society is

2020-12-25 00:16:58 UTC  

as this brainwashing happens

2020-12-25 00:17:02 UTC  

would you oppose it?

2020-12-25 00:17:28 UTC  

Ah, well no. I don't believe in genocide as a good thing.

2020-12-25 00:17:33 UTC  

well wait

2020-12-25 00:17:40 UTC  

if the society deems it okay

2020-12-25 00:17:44 UTC  

i thought it was good?

2020-12-25 00:18:03 UTC  

so you would resist, until the society decided it was okay, then you would stop resisting?

2020-12-25 00:19:23 UTC  

Society shapes the formation of morals, but morality is personal. A person does not always reflect society, but they can adapt to it

I would resist genocide and hopefully always would. I would like to think I'd never capitulate to a genocidal moral scheme

2020-12-25 00:19:30 UTC  

well wait

2020-12-25 00:19:34 UTC  

"hopefully always would"

2020-12-25 00:19:48 UTC  

you said if you were raised thinking genocide was fine, then it would be okay to do it

2020-12-25 00:21:00 UTC  

I said it's impossible to answer actually.

I entertained that if I was raised AND never exposed to an alternate I would be ok with it because that society would have formed my morality