Message from @Norman
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Cringe
Neither is an appeal to authority
i didnt appealing to authority
i posted video where he makes the argument
then i added a WWE style introduction
It's a straw man argument. It incorrectly defines moral relativism in order to attack it
no it doesnt
it accurately portrays it
I mean no it doesn't but that's fine.
Relativism isn't that "there are no objective truths and nothing it knowable" which is the definition that argument relies on to make it self referential and thus self defeating
no
it made a moral claim
Only that there are no moral truths, fundamental to the universe. It itself isn't a moral truth proposition. Relativism isn't a moral proposition itself
while saying no moral claims
It did not
checkmate
yes it is
That's both not what it says and not a moral claim
you claim morality exists,
i asked you specifically if it didnt exist
based on how you worded it earlier, you believe moral truth exists, but only relative to every individual
Yes. That's not a moral claim
That's not saying something is good or bad
thats why after i made my argument i said "now you must choose between moral nihilism and moral objectivism"
it is a moral claim
It is not
by saying morality is on an individual basis,
you claim some things are bad (morally) to an individual
It is a claim about morality
if you misspoke and meant morality doesnt exist, say so
Of course morality exists dumbass
it absolutely is a moral claim to say morality exists on an individual basis
You don't know what a moral claim is
That's the takeaway
by making that claim, you are making a moral judgement on every action
And because of that, you cannot see the flaw
no, you just want to cling to a position i disproved
I asked you many times based on your moral subjectivism
about specific moral scenarios