Message from @Norman
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you can just make them up
according to you,
everyone has their own
whoever triumphs, its the same
since they can now define a morality
Isn't that the truth
they can change people's minds
let me put it this way
if someone brainwashed you into thinking killing kittens was good,
well it isnt bad to you
to your current ethics it is,
but your ethics change after the brainwashing
so in actuality, there is no bad thing happening
Makes sense to me
you see how, to others, this looks like there is no morality?
if it can be based on something like feelings?
whats stopping me
from saying theft is bad
then right before i steal
saying its good
and if i can do that, well it sure doesnt seem like there is any morality!
Why? You just applied your values to circumstances. All that changed was your values. Morality was there the whole time
you claim this mythical morality was there the whole time
there is no evidence of it though
it did not restrict any actions
no consequences for violating it (if it can even be violated, since it can just change)
so why do you believe it is there?
what practical difference is there from this and nihilism?
i am going to bed
think over your view
right now it is not very coherent to me
Sure it did. When he thought it was immoral to steal, he didn't. When he didn't, he did
I believe it's there because it's possible to act immorally. You can act and know that you didn't apply your values to your circumstances. And you can use it to judge others. You apply your values to the circumstances and make a moral claim as to good or bad
What practical difference is there from all morals when someone can act immorally? The morality of a person is a sense of their perception of the world. It has no inherent force. If you choose to act in accordance with them there's no practical difference from when you choose to react out of accordance with them
i will leave this
really think about if morality actually exists, or if you are saying it just an opinion from chemicals in your brain
and ask if you think
logic, math, etc. also exists
The evidence is in how it made the individual perceive his circumstances
or are just arising from chemicals
i will be glad to talk to you later, but not tomorrow since its christmas