@TaLoN132 stahp talking so much

!rank

I'll never catch up

This is sort of going back in time, but with regard to the hearing on the 3rd of December. Wasn't this already done? A judge in Illinois made the determination that the charges were valid enough for extradition. A court commissioner earlier this month made the determination that the charges are warranted enough to set bail at $2 million.

I am not a trial lawyer, nor a lawyer at all, I just studied health care law as part of my MPH - this seems like another redundancy to me.

@Neph (Nec) / Krystaps (War), you just advanced to level 4!

Any links to the Rittenhouse preliminary hearing?

https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/live-trials-current/kyle-rittenhouse/watch-live-kyle-rittenhouse-preliminary-hearing/ Apparently this site is going to be streaming it in 30 mins.

Thank you

https://youtu.be/MoTUXgLXp64

Thanks... I have really been wanting to hear the facts on this case. I think this guy was absolutely stupid to go there like that, but that doesnt mean it was not self defense. Just because he was being a little moron doesnt me he doesnt have the right to defend himself (so long as he was not the person that originally engaged)

In YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMaxbv9UnRY Apparently it will be streamed here.

Did they really just waive his Prelim?

Oh no sorry apparently that was the guy before him

Yeah it's sort of a revolving door right now.

It's about to begin.

cool thanks

Next court date is scheduled January 5th at 1 PM/2 PM EDT.

My video cut out but Im sure that was enough for probable cause. But if that detective is an indication of how law enforcement will be testifying at trial Rittenhouse will not be convicted.

Watch Grosskreutz eat the table when he falls from chair. lmao.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10160822992482925&id=822542924

Note Kyle diving.

i missed it

what happened in the hearing?

or has it happened yet?

You’ve missed a lot of it but they’re in a 15 minute break right now

ah ok

I find it very distracting to have Grosskreutz and his lawyer present at every hearing. I just find it wholly unnecessary to have him there in the first place

The victim is party to the case.

that is as a result of the boilerplate Marsy's Law which declares a victim before the accused has had a chance to clear themeslves

I'm aware

but you see the conflict of interest?

It declares a victim in contravention to the presumption of innocence

Indeed.

"state versus"

this is solved here by letting council representing the possible victim attend, but not the victim itself.

agreed

To avoid the problem arising from the proposed victim making a statement after having heard the case.

technically, the prosecutor can call the victim last, and if present, the proposed victim can change his/her deposition according to what has transpired.

Which is problematic.

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