Message from @leftingfighter33

Discord ID: 775079445085814794


2020-11-08 18:32:28 UTC  

It is true that rarely people are exonerated of crimes to my knowledge, we still work with the presumption of innocence however.

2020-11-08 18:33:52 UTC  

Presumption of innocence does not mean that you are innocent, of course.

2020-11-08 18:34:24 UTC  

But there are cases where you are found exonerated due to evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that you are innocent.

2020-11-08 18:34:42 UTC  

Although that's semi-rare.

2020-11-08 18:35:51 UTC  

Exculpatory evidence, for instance.

2020-11-08 19:06:41 UTC  

> https://twitter.com/shylockh/status/1325120312455749634?s=19
@Elias Diaz mmm a collection of stuff like this would be interesting

2020-11-08 19:07:08 UTC  

(and any responses)

2020-11-08 19:07:59 UTC  

@Maw not to argue with your overall point, this isn't a matter of convicting an individual, but rather having suspicion

2020-11-08 19:08:28 UTC  

The standards of having faith in an election and convicting an individual of a crime are not the same

2020-11-08 19:08:53 UTC  

The former has to happen naturally, otherwise it is a failure no matter how it failed

2020-11-08 19:10:05 UTC  

Just like someone's gut about what a presidential candidate may or may not do, judges who one votes for, no matter if that person can prove it or not

2020-11-08 19:10:15 UTC  

Some things are judged on intuition

2020-11-08 19:10:52 UTC  

And faith in the election is one of those things, and the consequences of lack of faith are not great, regardless of why

2020-11-08 19:11:49 UTC  

In other words, if I see enough hair raising unanswered questions, that gets vetted and so on, I won't personally need proof (on the level of proving guilt) to lose faith in the election process

2020-11-08 19:18:31 UTC  

I don't think anyone would sincerely suggest that you don't hold personal dominion over to what your faith is applied and what methods you employ to get there. Expect to see a presumption of innocence, in a legal sense, from many others who are also employing methods of their choosing.

2020-11-08 19:18:32 UTC  

YOu guys noticedhow Fox just turned anti-trump? Even banning that judge for supporting Trump? WTF?

2020-11-08 19:19:43 UTC  

Only boomers watch cable

2020-11-08 19:20:18 UTC  

;p

2020-11-08 19:21:30 UTC  

Fox news tied their own noose when they initially hitched their wagon.

2020-11-08 19:23:40 UTC  

But to be fair, they made a lot of money from pandering in the interim.

2020-11-08 19:28:59 UTC  

Why the hell do we require ID to get on an airplane but not to vote?

2020-11-08 19:45:23 UTC  

Some states require it I think

2020-11-08 19:45:29 UTC  

They asked me for id

2020-11-08 19:45:53 UTC  

Also I don't want to judge everything by how shitty we treat airline passengers

2020-11-08 19:46:12 UTC  

Don't give anyone any dumb ideas now

2020-11-08 19:46:38 UTC  

If I gave to take off my damn shoes to vote next election ... _squinty eyes_

2020-11-08 21:01:28 UTC  

> Why the hell do we require ID to get on an airplane but not to vote?
@leftingfighter33 because the left will tell you voter ID laws are voter suppression.

2020-11-08 21:02:13 UTC  

Which is ridiculous @TheParamedicGamer

2020-11-08 21:02:19 UTC  

But accurate

2020-11-08 21:03:13 UTC  

Well they will tell you how it was used as suppression during Jim Crow in the south. Along with other stupid ass voter rules they had at the time.

2020-11-08 21:05:04 UTC  

Which I mean that is true. They very much did that. Can't argure

2020-11-08 21:43:08 UTC  

Just came across this in a separate Discord server. Politics channel specifically

2020-11-08 21:43:29 UTC  

I think someone in here has a background in data analysis yeah?

2020-11-08 21:58:46 UTC  

Aww yes. The ever so wise 4chan🍀

2020-11-08 21:59:04 UTC  

I'm highly suspect of anything that comes off of 4chan

2020-11-08 22:03:36 UTC  

As you should be.

2020-11-08 22:05:45 UTC  

As that's where QAnon and another bunch of crazy stuff comes from.

2020-11-08 22:06:29 UTC  

Lol fair

2020-11-08 22:06:45 UTC  

And the Hacker known as 4chan

2020-11-08 22:06:48 UTC  

That and they so do love trolling people with random disinformation.