Message from @leftingfighter33
Discord ID: 775076811935055943
That's how our legal system works.
And it works both ways in politics.
> You're supposed to believe people are innocent until proven guilty, yes.
@Maw our legal system is not like that and to my knowledge when someone has gone to trial they’re only found either not-guilty or guilty. They are never found innocent. When the state nolle prosequi’s a case against someone I.e. dismisses the charges there is nothing entered as an actual finding of innocent.
It is true that rarely people are exonerated of crimes to my knowledge, we still work with the presumption of innocence however.
Presumption of innocence does not mean that you are innocent, of course.
But there are cases where you are found exonerated due to evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that you are innocent.
Although that's semi-rare.
Exculpatory evidence, for instance.
> https://twitter.com/shylockh/status/1325120312455749634?s=19
@Elias Diaz mmm a collection of stuff like this would be interesting
(and any responses)
@Maw not to argue with your overall point, this isn't a matter of convicting an individual, but rather having suspicion
The standards of having faith in an election and convicting an individual of a crime are not the same
The former has to happen naturally, otherwise it is a failure no matter how it failed
Just like someone's gut about what a presidential candidate may or may not do, judges who one votes for, no matter if that person can prove it or not
Some things are judged on intuition
And faith in the election is one of those things, and the consequences of lack of faith are not great, regardless of why
In other words, if I see enough hair raising unanswered questions, that gets vetted and so on, I won't personally need proof (on the level of proving guilt) to lose faith in the election process
I don't think anyone would sincerely suggest that you don't hold personal dominion over to what your faith is applied and what methods you employ to get there. Expect to see a presumption of innocence, in a legal sense, from many others who are also employing methods of their choosing.
Only boomers watch cable
;p
Fox news tied their own noose when they initially hitched their wagon.
But to be fair, they made a lot of money from pandering in the interim.
Why the hell do we require ID to get on an airplane but not to vote?
Some states require it I think
They asked me for id
Also I don't want to judge everything by how shitty we treat airline passengers
Don't give anyone any dumb ideas now
If I gave to take off my damn shoes to vote next election ... _squinty eyes_
> Why the hell do we require ID to get on an airplane but not to vote?
@leftingfighter33 because the left will tell you voter ID laws are voter suppression.
Which is ridiculous @TheParamedicGamer
But accurate
Well they will tell you how it was used as suppression during Jim Crow in the south. Along with other stupid ass voter rules they had at the time.
Which I mean that is true. They very much did that. Can't argure
Just came across this in a separate Discord server. Politics channel specifically
I think someone in here has a background in data analysis yeah?
Aww yes. The ever so wise 4chan🍀
I'm highly suspect of anything that comes off of 4chan