Message from @leftingfighter33

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2020-11-11 04:12:42 UTC  

3) when it compares to a mostly Democratic county the high end on the horizontal axis is 20 percent and to properly compare them you need to put them on the same scale as the Republican counties and when you do I don't think you'll see any difference

2020-11-11 04:15:02 UTC  

I do think all states should get rid of straight line party voting option. If for no other reason than folks can't do this analysis.

2020-11-11 04:15:47 UTC  

Also I think his recommendations about more transparency and greater access to data and the ability to audit are all good things

2020-11-11 04:16:41 UTC  

update on the Benford's Law thing explained for the city of Chicago

2020-11-11 04:18:00 UTC  

essentially because the numbers don't span a large amount of orders of magnitude (# of digits), in particular I think 98% of the precincts had 3 digit votes numbers, the distribution of first digits ends up being a normal distribution

2020-11-11 04:19:12 UTC  

and Trump's data seemingly fits Benford's Law because he averaged around 100 votes in each precinct

2020-11-11 04:19:34 UTC  

@daddy Kevin yeah precisely why I wouldn't pay much attention to the Benford's law thing in regards this subject

2020-11-11 05:07:12 UTC  

Dr shiva got cheated on the primaries by RHinos

2020-11-11 05:07:23 UTC  

Fuck these people.

2020-11-11 05:28:57 UTC  

(I'd wait for a statistician of the forensic kind to verify things before jumping to conclusions)

2020-11-11 05:39:18 UTC  

Why a forensic statistician?

2020-11-11 05:39:52 UTC  

Data scientists do the same

2020-11-11 05:59:05 UTC  

whatever I don't know the exact titles

2020-11-11 05:59:17 UTC  

maybe a good data scientist is something too

2020-11-11 05:59:33 UTC  

but there is a difference between someone that can find a pattern and someone that can verify that it means something

2020-11-11 05:59:57 UTC  

a forensic something-or-other will be someone who is used in court as an expert witness, or works for a firm that does that sort of thing

2020-11-11 06:52:45 UTC  

> 3) when it compares to a mostly Democratic county the high end on the horizontal axis is 20 percent and to properly compare them you need to put them on the same scale as the Republican counties and when you do I don't think you'll see any difference
@meglide
I did this comparison for all counties across all states (but not at the presinct level) and It matches what Shiva says it should. https://github.com/Bitcadia/DownBallot/blob/master/Outputs/CountyDownBallotDiffsByStraight.pdf

2020-11-11 06:56:56 UTC  

@DrSammyD huh? I just looked at your data and it doesn't look Shiva's data

2020-11-11 06:57:34 UTC  

exactly, bunched and random but with straight lines, no inflection

2020-11-11 06:58:18 UTC  

That's what the MI precinct data should look like.

2020-11-11 06:59:00 UTC  

yeah but you did it for MI as a whole and it looks okay

2020-11-11 06:59:28 UTC  

In other words, Romney's suggestion that "Real" republicans would not vote for Trump is nonsense

2020-11-11 06:59:47 UTC  

Yes, MI looks ok but not at the precinct level

2020-11-11 06:59:58 UTC  

I don't have the precinct level data.

2020-11-11 07:00:19 UTC  

So it all gets hidden inside the county

2020-11-11 07:00:56 UTC  

actually I think what Romney said has some truth to it ... I know of several folks that voted the way Romney describes

2020-11-11 07:03:42 UTC  

Not according to the evidence I just posted. The vast majority of individual Highly republican areas for both Wisconsin and Minnesota voted for trump at a higher rate if they didn't vote party line.

2020-11-11 07:05:12 UTC  

Why not MI? They're basically the same states culturally and demographically

2020-11-11 07:08:09 UTC  

I'm not sure on that one ... never lived in any of those states, but I get the impression that MI is different because of Detroit

2020-11-11 07:08:35 UTC  

That's only one county. It's one dot in all of those on the plots

2020-11-11 07:09:49 UTC  

And WI has Milwaukee, and MN has the Twin Cities. WI and MN both had heavy rioting.

2020-11-11 11:40:39 UTC  

Downballot isn't really much of a thing

2020-11-11 11:40:52 UTC  

Happens every election cycle where you vote for the candidate and nothing else

2020-11-11 11:41:01 UTC  

Hundreds of thousands of votes in GA, FL, etc.

2020-11-11 14:22:46 UTC  

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