Message from @leftingfighter33

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2020-11-13 13:19:15 UTC  

Dont get me wrong, I suspect this to be the trajectory no matter who is in charge. Its the gravitation of the human supraorganism.

2020-11-13 13:19:35 UTC  

note the difference, however, between a "what if" and a projection.

2020-11-13 13:20:22 UTC  

Yeah potentiality can be an evasive concept to me.

2020-11-13 13:21:02 UTC  

Indeed. You can plot hypersynchrony of the past, to the present and extrapolate that into the future. Not a fact. A projection.

2020-11-13 13:22:07 UTC  

Do that for America, now at a low intensity war with itself, and China, and the difference is striking.

2020-11-13 13:25:11 UTC  

What's important is the direct behavior control exercise of palliative mask-wearing recommendations, I guess. You know, the big problems.

2020-11-13 13:25:56 UTC  

excellent point!

2020-11-13 13:28:25 UTC  

I think either my sarcasm didn't hit its mark or yours didn't. It amuses me either way. Lol

2020-11-13 15:31:03 UTC  

> Red means the # of people who didn't vote straight party ticket voted for Trump minus the people who didn't vot straight party ticket who voted for biden
@DrSammyD Does 'split ticket' include the ballots that were blank downballot?

2020-11-13 15:43:10 UTC  

> @DrSammyD Does 'split ticket' include the ballots that were blank downballot?
@stevesirag that's a good question that I've been wondering myself and whether there's a legitimate reason for it, seems possible that either party could have recruited folks to just to vote top of the ticket, voting down ballot can be more of a hassle, in addition to the candidates and there are also many bond issues, and etc. So there could have been a push to just go in and vote top of the ticket because we gotta support or oppose one candidate or another

2020-11-13 16:49:49 UTC  

@Zuluzeit Mask wearing is very much an exercise in hysteria and futility. Much like prayer used to be. You are too intelligent to be one of the maskers, so I assumed you were observing this, but included was your habitual, slightly coquette sarcasm and ridicule of those who believe it to be a vertical conspiracy.

2020-11-13 16:50:27 UTC  

I enjoyed that and was able to live with the uncertainty as to exactly how wide your sarcasm was supposed to favn.

2020-11-13 16:52:17 UTC  

@Doc dunno if you missed my Q yesterday; I am curious what the final say is on HCQ, when used with Zinc and administered early

2020-11-13 16:53:31 UTC  

@realz What I have seen, again, is equivocality. It probably stems from the fact that COVID is a two phenomenon problem. 1 is the virus itself, 2 is the action of the immunodefenses.

2020-11-13 16:54:29 UTC  

HCQ is an immuno-modulator (and protects Red blood cells - which there are reports are destroyed by the disease), so it makes sense to use it to modulate the hyperimmunity connected to COVID.

2020-11-13 16:55:03 UTC  

If you, however, downregulate a immunodefense in the "fight the virus" mode, you might be doing something less that optimal.

2020-11-13 16:56:07 UTC  

As there is no easy way of separating those going through hyper/auto-immunity from those battling the virus, you get heterogenous cohorts and equivocality when doing the statistics.

2020-11-13 16:56:29 UTC  

mmm

2020-11-13 16:57:06 UTC  

Please keep in mind, I am not a virologist or immunologist. I am a double specialty MD, none of which include the two.

2020-11-13 17:22:27 UTC  

@Doc why are the deaths staying low even though the cases are going up and down like a rollercoaster

2020-11-13 17:23:22 UTC  

Hypothetical:

2020-11-13 17:23:33 UTC  

1) because those most receptive are already dead

2020-11-13 17:23:44 UTC  

2) because deaths are classified differently

2020-11-13 17:23:56 UTC  

3) because this is wave 2, people are more immune

2020-11-13 17:24:10 UTC  

4) because these are less deadly strains

2020-11-13 17:24:31 UTC  

5) because medical treatment is increasing in quality with experience.

2020-11-13 17:24:56 UTC  

6) because social distancing decreases viral load on transmission, which will influence mortality

2020-11-13 17:25:02 UTC  

7) all of the above.

2020-11-13 17:25:34 UTC  
2020-11-13 17:26:09 UTC  

What determines the rate being characterized as 'low'?

2020-11-13 17:26:15 UTC  

oh! 8) Because deaths occur later in the cycles. We are just entering wave 2

2020-11-13 17:26:34 UTC  

@Zuluzeit what rate? Mortality rate? MR is always relative.

2020-11-13 17:26:44 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771201221145919499/776860617562783764/4m9rne.png

2020-11-13 17:27:09 UTC  

"low" for a virus = lower than the flu. "low" for corona, lower than regular corona (the common cold)

2020-11-13 17:27:09 UTC  

Relative to performance thus far?

2020-11-13 17:27:24 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771201221145919499/776860782851915796/oi8AAAAASUVORK5CYII.png

2020-11-13 17:27:28 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771201221145919499/776860802295529512/SgYUAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC.png

2020-11-13 17:27:35 UTC  

that

2020-11-13 17:27:37 UTC  

yes, there has been reports that both the IFR and CFR is lower this time around, than last spring.